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Ds had nightmare about his teacher shouting

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Gigglewiggle87 · 30/08/2024 18:47

Ds had a nightmare that MR X was shouting at him for not trying hard enough to do his work at school ( this has happend). Ds has autism has an ehcp.

Anyway DS had put MR X as his picture on his home screen. I asked him why and he said because I want to stare at him.

Its sad really that it's on his mind so much that he's had a bad dream over it. 😢

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Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 00:37

Woollypullover · 31/08/2024 00:30

Setting a teacher's face as the computer wallpaper and staring at it is obsessive - whether the child is autistic or not.

This is a person trying to do their job. Is it was a member of your family, you'd be worried. It's a safeguarding issue.

  1. this picture is on the school website anyone can look at it. 2) as I said earlier ds gets given a little booklet every year with a picture of the teacher he's leaving behinde and a picture of the new one he's going to be having. That booklet is given to him. He could look at all day if he wanted.
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Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 00:41

PoopedAndScooped · 31/08/2024 00:34

If it helps your son cope - Its absolutely fine

Dont let anyone tell you its a safeguarding issue or obsessive

As another poster said, Maybe better to post on the SEN boards as you have alot more understanding mumsnetters over there

Yeah I forgot about sen board abd posted here without thinking .

Of course it's not a Safe guarding issue 🤣

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TheClawDecides · 31/08/2024 00:45

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 00:27

I think it might just be ds way of trying to see the happy face in the photo rather than the angry face he may have seen in his dream.

I really do think this makes sense.

I'm not autistic but when I was a kid, if something really bad happened in a certain place....like when my brother fell off the swing in the park and broke his leg, to deal with it I'd ask my sisters/mum/dad/friends for happy stories about parks and swings 🤷‍♂️

I think it was my way of 'putting it right again' and losing the trauma or something.

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Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 08:43

TheClawDecides · 31/08/2024 00:45

I really do think this makes sense.

I'm not autistic but when I was a kid, if something really bad happened in a certain place....like when my brother fell off the swing in the park and broke his leg, to deal with it I'd ask my sisters/mum/dad/friends for happy stories about parks and swings 🤷‍♂️

I think it was my way of 'putting it right again' and losing the trauma or something.

I do really think that's why he's done it. He's not said anything bad or anything like that. I couldn't remove it yesterday don't know how

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Soontobe60 · 31/08/2024 08:46

Gigglewiggle87 · 30/08/2024 20:05

It's been the case since reception. Every year he gets a book that says there will be changes. With a pic of MR X saying Mr X will no longer be your teacher. Miss Z will now be your teacher. Miss B will no longer be your TA. Mr E will now be your TA you will use a different door and your lunch will be at 12.30. Some things will stay the same etc.

It's comes from the school through senco. All the children with autism/special needs get one

So he’s taken a photo of the teacher photo and uploaded it as his screensaver.
How old is your DS? As the responsible adult, you need to remove that photo and remind your DS that it is not appropriate.

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 08:50

Soontobe60 · 31/08/2024 08:46

So he’s taken a photo of the teacher photo and uploaded it as his screensaver.
How old is your DS? As the responsible adult, you need to remove that photo and remind your DS that it is not appropriate.

So it's OK for him to have a picture of his teacher in paper form but not on a screen saver on his tablet that will never leave the house?

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AubreysMonkey · 31/08/2024 08:54

Wow! I'm genuinely shocked at some of these ignorant/nasty replies.

OP, maybe email the SENCo and ask their advice, I imagine it is easily sorted if he hasn't already moved on by the time school starts next week.

Good luck and your son isn't remotely 'weird', he's autistic. I would expect most educated adults to understand the very basics of autism. You've remained very calm on this post!

Soontobe60 · 31/08/2024 08:55

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 08:50

So it's OK for him to have a picture of his teacher in paper form but not on a screen saver on his tablet that will never leave the house?

You know what, you’re right.
Perhaps try to make a social story around what to do if you’re upset about someone if they shout at you. Find the transition book he’s got for this coming year and see if he will refocus on his new teacher in a positive way. I still think the old photo needs taking off his tablet though - it’s not helping him if he’s had nightmares is it?
Many children will be feeling anxious about going back to school, and someone with ASD perhaps even more so which is why transitions are so crucial. I do hope he’s not been worrying all summer and soon settles in with his new teacher.

TeamPolin · 31/08/2024 08:58

Op, I'd use the SEND children board in future because a lot of the people posting here clearly don't get it....

He's clearly anxious. Will he discuss it with you - perhaps this behaviour has been triggered by a specific incident and needs unpicking. Can you talk it through with the SENCO? My DS has echolalia and will often replay troublesome incidents with teachers. But once you understand the circumstances sometimes there's a very easy fix to diffuse the tension.

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 08:58

AubreysMonkey · 31/08/2024 08:54

Wow! I'm genuinely shocked at some of these ignorant/nasty replies.

OP, maybe email the SENCo and ask their advice, I imagine it is easily sorted if he hasn't already moved on by the time school starts next week.

Good luck and your son isn't remotely 'weird', he's autistic. I would expect most educated adults to understand the very basics of autism. You've remained very calm on this post!

He's getting a different teacher when they go back in September. I think when ds has actually been a handful of times he will feel better. I'm really hoping he will have a better year this year since he has lovely teacher/TA

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Shinyandnew1 · 31/08/2024 09:01

Poor lad-sounds like he’s a bit anxious about the return to school. Is Mr X the new teacher or last year’s one?

Rolypolyup · 31/08/2024 09:06

This thread is so sad. You're poor son. I thought that awareness and understanding of autism was at an all time high but apparently not.
He's not weird. He's trying to understand something in a way that works for him.
Full grown adults calling a child weird is awful.

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 09:09

TeamPolin · 31/08/2024 08:58

Op, I'd use the SEND children board in future because a lot of the people posting here clearly don't get it....

He's clearly anxious. Will he discuss it with you - perhaps this behaviour has been triggered by a specific incident and needs unpicking. Can you talk it through with the SENCO? My DS has echolalia and will often replay troublesome incidents with teachers. But once you understand the circumstances sometimes there's a very easy fix to diffuse the tension.

I know a while back his teacher shouted at him for not trying hard enough to do his work. Basically if there's not an adult sitting with him he doesn't do anything. He's also working at year 1 level so I'm mot sure how much he even understands. But he's awear he can't do what his friend can and often calls himself dumb. He's got a fantastic TA this year ds thinks he's fantastic so u think he will build his confidence.

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Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 09:12

Shinyandnew1 · 31/08/2024 09:01

Poor lad-sounds like he’s a bit anxious about the return to school. Is Mr X the new teacher or last year’s one?

Mr x is last years teacher so he's got a different one this year . I think possibly he needs reminding of that and reassurance that he's not got Mr X anymore.

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 31/08/2024 09:13

It is a safeguarding issue - not for the pupil but for the member of staff, who also has a right to be safeguarded.
Autism or not, setting the wallpaper of your tablet to the face of a member of staff so you can stare at them is not appropriate.

HelenWheels · 31/08/2024 09:15

my ds also did, a night terror, I am sorry Mr X

i didnt worry.

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 09:15

Rolypolyup · 31/08/2024 09:06

This thread is so sad. You're poor son. I thought that awareness and understanding of autism was at an all time high but apparently not.
He's not weird. He's trying to understand something in a way that works for him.
Full grown adults calling a child weird is awful.

I do think it's very strange. I'm not sure if some of the posters do truly think he's weird. And do not understand asd at all or if they are on a wind up.

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Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 09:18

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 31/08/2024 09:13

It is a safeguarding issue - not for the pupil but for the member of staff, who also has a right to be safeguarded.
Autism or not, setting the wallpaper of your tablet to the face of a member of staff so you can stare at them is not appropriate.

Please explain how its a safe guarding issue . What did you think going to happen? As above so it's OK for ds to ha e a picture of the teacher in paper form but not on his tablet . Please can you explain the difference?

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HelenWheels · 31/08/2024 09:20

i would suggest he puts a different picture up op, so he doesnt have to think about Mr X

HelenWheels · 31/08/2024 09:22

it sounds like you are doing the right thing op @Gigglewiggle87

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 31/08/2024 09:25

Hi OP, I hope your son has a better year, as you know ASD can make things tough in school. I think you are doing so well in challenging circumstances, including in this thread!
I work in secondary school not primary, I'm sure you have given some thought to where your son will go to when he gets to secondary school. Many mainstream secondaries are great for ASD students, but as you have been reminded here the awareness of how ASD impacts children and adults isn't great. I recommend always looking at secondary schools that have ASD units/specialisms.
I know this is a way off yet but some of the comments on here have reminded me of the struggles some students in mainstream secondary have.

HerVagestyTheQueef · 31/08/2024 09:31

Hi OP, I hope that when school starts your DS starts to enjoy the year and likes his new teacher, then the worries about the old teacher may start to fade. He'll also be more busy/tired/distracted when it's term time.

Some of the replies on here have been horrific, ignorant and judgemental. If I were you I'd post on one of the SEN boards in future if you continue to have concerns. I have an autistic DD, by the way, and OCD and anxiety are sadly very integral parts of that, as they are for autistic people generally.

HerVagestyTheQueef · 31/08/2024 09:33

It is a safeguarding issue - not for the pupil but for the member of staff, who also has a right to be safeguarded.

This is one of the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever read on MN.

Gigglewiggle87 · 31/08/2024 09:34

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 31/08/2024 09:25

Hi OP, I hope your son has a better year, as you know ASD can make things tough in school. I think you are doing so well in challenging circumstances, including in this thread!
I work in secondary school not primary, I'm sure you have given some thought to where your son will go to when he gets to secondary school. Many mainstream secondaries are great for ASD students, but as you have been reminded here the awareness of how ASD impacts children and adults isn't great. I recommend always looking at secondary schools that have ASD units/specialisms.
I know this is a way off yet but some of the comments on here have reminded me of the struggles some students in mainstream secondary have.

Thank you ds is going into year 5. So when we get back to school in September we will be looking at secondary schools. I really don't know if i want to send him to mainstream or a sen school. I know some schools have a senco department . Ideally i would like him to go to main stream if it's right for him . This part sounds awful but any school we go to look at are not going to tell me their senco department is crap are they. I feel like they just say what you want to hear because they are sort of selling the school to you . That's what it felt like when I was looking at schools for my other children.

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Glitterbomb123 · 31/08/2024 09:35

Gigglewiggle87 · 30/08/2024 19:49

I have told him to remove it and put happy things because it will make him feel happy to look at nice things .

But no he's not developing concerning obsession he's a little boy with autism who is worried about things and has been scared of this teacher because he shouts at him. Maybe ds thought if he looked at his normal face and not scary face he would feel better.

You said he had a nightmare that his teacher shouted at him. That doesn't mean he did irl?

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