Women are banned from talking in public

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Women through new laws issued by Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers, are now banned on speaking in public as a woman's voice is considered "intimate" and should not be heard. I feel so sad and helpless for their situation. At least I am educated and in this situation would try to limit birth control without my husband being aware of my actions, if I could.
Does anyone know how they can be helped?

But then again, women's rights are curtailed every where in the world in one way or another. Just look ins states where women can't even have an abortion.

And Iraq planning to lower child marriage age to 9!!!

literally legalizing pedophilia

i was also shocked child marriage is legal in usa

oh and child marriage is also legal in america

there’s also this

4 states have no minimum age

Tennessee Republicans trying pass a bill that eliminates age requirement for marriage.

many kids marry their rapist

That's so messed up isn't it , marrying a child.
Something wrong when your bride is at school or should be in school.

sick

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/16/iraq-parliament-poised-legalize-child-marriage

Again there are millions of Iraqi men in Europe fleeing persecution. This is their chance to make a difference. They are safe here in the west, surely to God no father or man in their right minds can agree with this.. Marrying a 9 year old.

Republicans in the USA want to ban single parenthood ie make it immoral to be single. Their first step is to roll back the tax credit of head of household nationally and via each state to require divorce to be a long evolved process, ie go backwards.

I'm not sure that's comparable. No US state has taken away a woman's right to simply exist; to be seen or to be heard. Banning abortion, absolutely despicable decision making, but it's really not in the same league as what's happening in Afghanistan, where not just one right has been taken away, but literally the right to exist as an autonomous entity.

And the Democrats are falling over themselves to erase women's sex-based rights to appease men who imagine they feel like women. What a time to be a woman in the US. Literally disenfranchised, with no party willing to defend your rights. In the supposed leader of the free world.

It's interesting, isn't it, how all these rules and laws that women are subjected too is to try to control them and correct issues which are directly related to the behaviour of men.
Although Afghanistan is an extreme example, these issues are prevalent all over the world. Including pedophilia. Plenty of white Christian and atheist men involved in it too.

Yes they have, right to exist

look up Amanda zurewski case
like the izabella sajbor case in Poland

many women have been left to die over there

they sued after nearly dying because those laws were written intentionally vague asking to change it so doctors can help women and Texas court rules against them

women are being left to suffer and die from miscarriage sepsis, women with cancer refused cancer treatment, abortion that can save them

so many women have to travel outside of state to get life saving abortions, in case of Amanda she couldn’t even travel because sepsis would of killed her on the way

they are refusing women life saving treatment

in some states they even voted and talked about for removing life of mother exception completely (not that it even worked anyway) saying it’s gods will if she dies

some states like Texas even said/sued they are not required to follow Biden law that demands hospitals give women emergency abortions to save their lives

texas politicians were also caught on camera planning bringing death penalty for abortion too

( and child rape victims like that poor 13 year girl in Mississippi forced to birth, I cried when reading that, also after some proposed exception for girls under 12 in some states, talked about how it can kill a child and leave her tiny body disabled, that exception was refused, and all those women forced to carry and birth dead babies, how is that not mental torture)

The cruelty of all that you've highlighted is really hard to comprehend in this day and age.
It really gets to me that it's men making these ludicrous laws and a lot of the time in America by religious zealots.

Not yet.

I guess you never heard of project 2025?

Sorry being forced to have a baby takes away all your rights as a woman. It’s not less important. It is completely in the same league. Strange you don’t see this.

these women would disagree, their right to exist and live was threatened

were refused to be seen and heard when they were dying and turned away multiple times from hospital

kate cox in Texas begged in court not to be forced to risk her life to deliver a baby that will die after birth, she was refused and her doctor was threatened

those that sued after almost dying (Amanda zurawski) were refused to be heard and court ruled against them, basically saying, we don’t care if you nearly died or that women will continue dying like you almost did and that future women aren’t going to be so lucky to survive

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Islamist religion should be entirely banned in all countries outside of the Middle East. How we can sit back and watch what happens there and allow the kind of people that support them into the rest of the world is beyond me. They should be stopped.

It seems like the Muslim men who flee Islamist regimes are more interested in policing Western women than in freeing their mothers, daughters and sisters. Obviously that's a generalisation but where there are large concentrations of young men from Afghanistan in the UK, there is also an issue with women being unsafe to walk around, being harassed and assaulted, along with a push from the mosques for sharia law.

I think it won't be men saving women in Afghanistan, or anywhere else.

How can western governments see whats happening in those countries & expect Afghan men to integrate into our way of life? Our way of life will not change to suit their comfort level. Us women will never be silenced for fear of tempting a man or us western women will never be told to cover ourselves up.
How can those men & there are millions in Europe just leave women behind like that. Have they any regard at all for females? Surely these young men should be trying to overthrow the Taliban regieme for the sake of their mothers, sisters, grandmothers, daughters... How can they fully integrate into society when our society is the complete oppose to one controlled by sharia law? We need to ask these questions openly.

Excellent points, @VOTENONOO and @wrongthinker . It's a conundrum, but it seems that women's rights take a very low priority in these matters. I've been horrified at stories coming out of Iran and Afghanistan, I'm sure it's not much better in some neighbouring states.

I agree that integration should be the aim. People who live in the UK should agree to abide by the laws and values of the UK, such as equality for women and gays, anti-racism, fair play etc. At the moment we seem to think that you can throw together people with conflicting values and we'll just work it out like some kind of national episode of Sesame Street. Personally I would severely limit immigration of males from Afghanistan, Iraq etc. I would like to make it open for women and children to come from those countries, but it's almost impossible for them to escape. Afghanistan must feel like a concentration camp. I don't know what we can do from here except keep talking about it and putting pressure on the government to act. Not that they care either - they shrug their shoulders and put it down to religion that they are too scared to say anything about in case they get beheaded.

Me too.

Absolutely. The West should not change or compromise or lifestyle or way of life to suit the comfort levels, /lifestyle of new immigrants.
They need to fully understand the country they have moved to & be willing to integrate into our culture, accept homosexuality is completely open here, women are treated & expect to be treated as equals, women wear what the want & we have many different faiths happing co existing.
Governments have put integration policies in place but ultimately the individuals need to accept what our lifestyles entail & want to integrate. Not come over here, hate our lifestyle & us as citizens as they only ends in disaster as we have seen time & time again.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/migration/news/germany-rejects-calls-for-u-turn-on-migration-policy-following-deadly-knife-attack/

This was suggested in Germany this week following the horrible murders by Islamic State at the festival. Schloz is using strong language & vows to increase deportatations but won't stop the migration policy from Syria or Afghanistan.
Surely Europe & all of us need to be shouting bring the women & children, why are just they allowing the men?

I don't understand why governments won't do anything about this issue. The vast majority of people want immigration to be better controlled and yet governments won't do anything. It would send such a strong message of support to Afghanistan's women. It's horrifying to think how little they have on their side. Even if they do come over here, they can expect to be made to abide by Sharia law in Birmingham, so what's the difference? Why don't we use our power to help them? Times like this, I wish we had some strong women in power.

I know, the governments know exactly what is happening to the women in these countries.. Millions of men from these counteries are in Europe as they say they are fleeing persecution & for their lives under Sharia Law..
But why is it widely accepted that it's OK for girls & women to remain? Survival of the fittest? Misogyny from western governments? Are the governments afraid to liase with Afghanistans Taliban government or do they simply not care.

Could you let us know which mosques are pushing for shariah law and some examples of how they are doing this? Thanks.