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Jermaine Jenas sacked by BBC

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Twonewcats · 22/08/2024 16:36

For inappropriate behaviour. No further details yet as to what specifically he has allegedly done.

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NoBinturongsHereMate · 24/08/2024 14:21

But texts between "consenting" adults doesn't end with dismissal for inappropriate behaviour, mate. His use of the word consenting is annoying, as he means it to be 'they were fully grown women, therefore they were fair game'

Yes that leapt out at me, too. If they were consenting they wouldn't have complained.

ABirdsEyeView · 24/08/2024 15:09

I do think the bbc were maybe between a rock and a hard place with HE, as he went on sick leave. Id imagine it's an HR nightmare to sack Donovan that situation. The initial allegations were sleazy but not illegal.

When it became apparent what he was also doing, it became clear cut.

I do think the BBC shouldn't have been paying him so much money in the first place though and then they wouldn't be in the position of trying to claw back 200K. No 'talent' is worth that ridiculously high salary. They are not as irreplaceable as they think!

JJ might have been being lined up for motd, but again he's not a unique talent - if he's not in the mix, someone else will be equally capable of doing the job. It's not like there aren't any ex footballers floating around.

ABirdsEyeView · 24/08/2024 15:09

Donovan? My phone is nuts. Someone that should say!

Pedallleur · 24/08/2024 16:28

Apparently his wife is 'raging Really? Why would she be like that. Was it the texting other women? Lying about it in the hope it goes away or the getting sacked? Or perhaps all 3 caused by the first one?

Twonewcats · 24/08/2024 17:04

Pedallleur · 24/08/2024 16:28

Apparently his wife is 'raging Really? Why would she be like that. Was it the texting other women? Lying about it in the hope it goes away or the getting sacked? Or perhaps all 3 caused by the first one?

If only he'd considered any of that before flirting and messaging someone, eh

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Oblomov24 · 24/08/2024 18:09

He's an idiot. He claims he's furious and contacting his solicitor. Today he admits to 'cheating'. What a twonk.

Twonewcats · 24/08/2024 18:13

Oblomov24 · 24/08/2024 18:09

He's an idiot. He claims he's furious and contacting his solicitor. Today he admits to 'cheating'. What a twonk.

Yes, and he's so so sorry too 🙄

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LastTimeLosingIt · 24/08/2024 18:30

Frankenstone · 23/08/2024 06:02

Well I hope the BBC is changing its ways and has started protecting junior staff and women from predatory men with clout in the corporation. I worked for the bbc as a trainee in the 2000s, straight out of university. The sexual harassment I experienced there was awful. I was fairly regularly harassed and propositioned by more senior often married male staff members with the promise that if I was a “fun girl” they would help my career and when I rejected them many went out of their way to make my life hard.

When I finally broke down and made a complaint about these men and what was happening to me and other young women at the bbc, it was me that lost my job. Honestly I was better off out of it but makes me so angry that the culture is such there that men like Jenas still obviously feel they can get away with this kind of behaviour.

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I had a very similar experience and know of many others who did. I carried on working there but never recovered from a couple of influential managers who had asked me out / asked for my sex and I turned them down.

Also, and this applies to BBC Sport TV in particular; women presenters largely were allowed on screen if they shagged the right manager. If the two of them then went out as a couple, that female presenter got presenting shift after shift given to them and became semi-famous for being on screen. Many of them talentless. Meanwhile there were multiple producers/assistant producers/researchers who were more talented but never got their big break allowed by the sleazy managers. I could name a dozen women straight off who made it onto TV for presenting shifts (which is what it's all about as then you treated and paid as "the talent") solely because of who they slept with. It's disgraceful.

Joosy · 24/08/2024 18:31

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LastTimeLosingIt · 24/08/2024 18:37

For those wondering how this man ever for presenting work, the BBC managers have a weird obsession with getting people into talk about sports who have done that sport themselves. They are literally obsessed with it. So very talented sports producers who could do a very good job of presenting or being a pundit are sidelined in favour of talentless idiots who played the sport themselves but can't string two words together or who can't speak properly. Producers would never be allowed on screen if they were that bad. But just because someone is retired from a sport, they get offered a chance at being a pundit. It then springboards from there...more pundit opportunities across the BBC's various outlets, and if they're ok, they get catapulted into the big name shows. Sometimes it works; some are really good. Often it doesn't. But there are very few commentators, pundits or presenters on the BBC who haven't played that sport at a high level themselves. They're given air time in favour of professional journalists who know how to speak and commentate. Eg the recent Olympics coverage by the BBC. The pundits, commentators and presenters were all former players of the applicable sport. Yes, they knew a lot about it, but they are used on screen in favour of much more talented producers and researchers who equally know a lot about the sport. There are very few left (like Andrew Cotter) who became famous commentators purely due to journalistic and commentary talent.

Joosy · 24/08/2024 18:47

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Aquarius1234 · 24/08/2024 19:08

JJ being mixed race like Alex Scott certainly helped. Yes I've read that many times. BBC do have boxes to tick.
They are both awful imo and I've really tried previously. Just nothing original coming out of their mouths. Alex Scott almost seemed scared previously to put any foot wrong and be as bland as possible. I think she even was happy to come across as straight for the first few years.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 24/08/2024 19:52

Aquarius1234 · 24/08/2024 19:08

JJ being mixed race like Alex Scott certainly helped. Yes I've read that many times. BBC do have boxes to tick.
They are both awful imo and I've really tried previously. Just nothing original coming out of their mouths. Alex Scott almost seemed scared previously to put any foot wrong and be as bland as possible. I think she even was happy to come across as straight for the first few years.

I think it's in bad taste that you are using this opportunity to basically say that both JJ and Alex Scott both got presenting jobs based on the colour of their skin.

Joosy · 24/08/2024 20:05

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Aquarius1234 · 24/08/2024 20:38

Okay I have just read it online many times probably keyboard warriors. I barely watch football.
I do think the bbc like to keep giving gig after gig to whoever they think is current and popular though. Though they never actually ask the public.

Joosy · 24/08/2024 20:40

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Aquarius1234 · 24/08/2024 20:46

I thought Jason Manford got fired from The One Show years ago.

Joosy · 24/08/2024 21:02

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spaceshooter · 24/08/2024 21:38

Perhaps we shouldn't be expecting every fucker who presents on tv to be hailed as a role model to the morally superior population..

The pearl clutching from the pure-as-the-driven-snow viewing public is absurd as it is amusing.

SheilaFentiman · 24/08/2024 21:48

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We don’t yet know if Jenas will make a comeback.

If the BBC is tightening up on behaviour that leads to a hostile workplace or is otherwise unacceptable, surely that’s a good thing?

Joosy · 24/08/2024 21:51

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LlynTegid · 24/08/2024 21:52

LastTimeLosingIt · 24/08/2024 18:37

For those wondering how this man ever for presenting work, the BBC managers have a weird obsession with getting people into talk about sports who have done that sport themselves. They are literally obsessed with it. So very talented sports producers who could do a very good job of presenting or being a pundit are sidelined in favour of talentless idiots who played the sport themselves but can't string two words together or who can't speak properly. Producers would never be allowed on screen if they were that bad. But just because someone is retired from a sport, they get offered a chance at being a pundit. It then springboards from there...more pundit opportunities across the BBC's various outlets, and if they're ok, they get catapulted into the big name shows. Sometimes it works; some are really good. Often it doesn't. But there are very few commentators, pundits or presenters on the BBC who haven't played that sport at a high level themselves. They're given air time in favour of professional journalists who know how to speak and commentate. Eg the recent Olympics coverage by the BBC. The pundits, commentators and presenters were all former players of the applicable sport. Yes, they knew a lot about it, but they are used on screen in favour of much more talented producers and researchers who equally know a lot about the sport. There are very few left (like Andrew Cotter) who became famous commentators purely due to journalistic and commentary talent.

Notable example that when I was young the majority of presenters on Test Match Special were journalists. Now almost all are former cricketers.

SheilaFentiman · 24/08/2024 21:54

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The differences where all misconduct is contained in a workplace situation and an employer waiting for the outcome of a criminal case outside the workplace have been made clear in the thread.

It is also worth noting that Huw Edwards started at the BBC long before JJ and may have had an older contract which specified suspension between a charge and a trial.

I will leave it there.

LlynTegid · 24/08/2024 21:54

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I don't agree with his behaviour but agree it is a far quicker sacking than the BBC have done with others. Is it because he was a presenter on the One Show, and therefore the BBC feel a wish to avoid any suggestion of cover up for a flagship evening show?

Starseeking · 24/08/2024 23:25

AlecTrevelyan006 · 23/08/2024 21:39

It appears that, after consulting his lawyers, he is…..sorry & ashamed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9enw5xp2qo

Hmmm, he was clearly unable to directly and unequivocally issue a public apology to his wife 🧐