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What are markers that identify stangers or acquaintances as posh? Lighthearted!

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Coffeeandacupcake · 20/08/2024 16:02

For me, it's a combination of accent, subtle, expensive haircut & highlights or that perfect shade of blonde..

OP posts:
HearTheMessenger · 21/08/2024 23:58

I never really knew what posh was before I joined mumsnet but there are some genuinely posh people on here and they have taught me that posh means:

  • passing off a hotel room as your bedroom
  • having a communal village pig and killing it at xmas (unsure of the other whole-village activities involving the pig during the rest of the year though)
  • eating prawns and baked potatoes
  • romping in hot tubs with village vicars
  • sundry wicker based village events
Nadeed · 22/08/2024 00:04

Accent. Expensive clothes, big house, kids at private school and lots of expensive holidays.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2024 00:17

LibertyPrime · 21/08/2024 23:17

@Coffeeandacupcake

Speech and Language

  • Accent: A refined or distinctive accent, such as Received Pronunciation (RP) in the UK, is often associated with poshness.
  • Vocabulary: Using formal or sophisticated vocabulary and complex sentence structures can signal a higher social status. This includes the use of "posh" or cultured expressions and idioms.
  • Pronunciation: Careful pronunciation and enunciation, avoiding slang or regional dialects, are often associated with posh individuals.
Fashion and Appearance
  • Clothing: High-quality, designer clothing and accessories are often worn. Brands that are perceived as exclusive or luxurious can be a marker.
  • Grooming: Meticulous grooming and attention to personal appearance, including well-maintained hairstyles and polished shoes, are common.
  • Social Norms: Wearing traditional or classic styles, such as tailored suits or elegant dresses, can also indicate a posh background.
Behavior and Etiquette
  • Manners: Politeness, refined manners, and adherence to social etiquette are key markers. This includes formal greetings, polite conversation, and careful attention to social niceties.
  • Dining: Knowledge of formal dining etiquette, such as the proper use of cutlery, and a preference for fine dining establishments can be indicators.
  • Social Conduct: A poised and composed demeanor, with an emphasis on decorum and restraint in social interactions.
Lifestyle and Interests
  • Education: Attending prestigious schools or universities is often associated with posh individuals. They might also have a strong appreciation for classical education and intellectual pursuits.
  • Hobbies: Interests in activities such as equestrian sports, classical music, art, or high culture can be indicators of a posh background.
  • Social Circles: Frequenting exclusive venues, participating in elite social clubs, and having connections within high society are markers.
Financial Indicators
  • Wealth: Possession of significant wealth or assets, such as expensive real estate, luxury cars, or a high standard of living.
  • Exclusivity: Engagement with brands and services that are perceived as exclusive or high-end.
Cultural References
  • Cultural Knowledge: Demonstrating a deep knowledge of high culture, including literature, art, and history, often associated with an upper-class education.
  • Social References: References to prestigious events, figures, or institutions can signal a posh background.
Edited

Lol.

AI strikes again.

MaidOfAle · 22/08/2024 00:17

mugglewump · 20/08/2024 16:21

Long hair with no parting, or shortish, floppy hair (esp boys); both types need a hand through them occasionally, which never gets stuck in a tangle and hair stays put without falling forward straight away. Manky old good marque car - posh people do not do flashy! LK Bennet. Accent. Private school. Can sail/ride a horse/ski/snowboard/play lacrosse or rugby (at least three of these).

Long hair with no parting

How can that possibly even happen?

HearTheMessenger · 22/08/2024 00:29

Bald spot

ThePlumVan · 22/08/2024 00:33

Proper posh old money = turns up at equestrian events in an old Volvo or Golf, wearing heavy stuffy clothes of indeterminate age or brand. Owner of winning horse, plus has its mother & Grandmother at home. Talks to everyone. Cant remember most peoples name.

Pretend posh new money = ‘arrives’ in giant lorry with side pop outs, and a team of 5 runners up that they recently brought after someone else put all the work in, and will now be up for sale. Wears huge branded Gucci sunglasses and a poker face. Stalks fellow competitors on social media, knows all their history but blanks them all. Vapes.

HearTheMessenger · 22/08/2024 00:36

Like this, look :

What are markers that identify stangers or acquaintances as posh? Lighthearted!
LibertyPrime · 22/08/2024 00:37

mathanxiety · 22/08/2024 00:17

Lol.

AI strikes again.

and if it helps the op then why the opposition to it ? bottom line people can say they think its x,y,z so if the intel is still of use to the op then its no different than people guessing ??

OriginalUsername2 · 22/08/2024 00:46

MaidOfAle · 22/08/2024 00:17

Long hair with no parting

How can that possibly even happen?

It’s all brushed backwards, as if it was going to be tied up.

HearTheMessenger · 22/08/2024 00:49

Oh, more like this then? :

What are markers that identify stangers or acquaintances as posh? Lighthearted!
mummybearSW19 · 22/08/2024 01:00

Ancient cars.

Dogs
Cold houses
Big thick curtains
An ancient Aga
Gun cupboard
Push bikes.
Wool Jumpers with moth holes
Swishy hair
Horses

HearTheMessenger · 22/08/2024 01:04

Yes that is the correct hair.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2024 01:56

LibertyPrime · 22/08/2024 00:37

and if it helps the op then why the opposition to it ? bottom line people can say they think its x,y,z so if the intel is still of use to the op then its no different than people guessing ??

You've completely misunderstood the tone and intent of the OP.

knitnerd90 · 22/08/2024 02:02

@LaSourciereEfrontee quite. I am Jewish and from North London, though not posh myself. By a lot of these old money definitions, almost no one Jewish could be posh (tell that to Nigella Lawson's parents!)

Modern high flying finance types and the like are a different thing. In those circles you are expected to show your money in different ways.

LadyRoughDiamond · 22/08/2024 03:28

PhoebeFeels · 20/08/2024 18:10

I did know a lady from an aristocratic family. Beautiful voice, hardened by smoking. So polite. She was broke, lived rent free in what had been the Dower House. Her name cropped up in history, on the fringe of great events.
Excellent with horses and dogs.

This reminds me of someone I know in Suffolk. Formidable but lovely.

Combattingthemoaners · 22/08/2024 04:16

LibertyPrime · 22/08/2024 00:37

and if it helps the op then why the opposition to it ? bottom line people can say they think its x,y,z so if the intel is still of use to the op then its no different than people guessing ??

Isn’t the whole point of MN for it to be based on real human’s experiences and opinions? The poster could have just typed her question into ChatGPT herself if she wanted an AI response.

MelodyMalone · 22/08/2024 07:55

The way someone pronounces ‘issue’ (Rory Stewart vibes)

Iss-yoo vs ishoo?

MrsWhattery · 22/08/2024 08:46

Mmmmmm Rory Stewart on the radio. Bringing listenability back to Radio 4. Not because he’s posh, but his intelligence and nice calm radio voice.

Anotherusername2024 · 22/08/2024 09:04

ValsCupcakes · 21/08/2024 23:25

Posh as in Victoria Beckham? But she isn't posh!

I can definitely confirm I did not mean posh spice as my definition of posh 😆

Goldenbear · 22/08/2024 09:59

CheerfulBunny · 21/08/2024 11:23

Chaps will have a gold signet ring. Ladies, particularly horsey ones, seem to have very slim legs which I am incredibly jealous of. I have legs like a shire horse 😑 I'll never be smart - too northern, darling! I still say bath not baaarth.
Those I have known who went to good private schools are terribly good with people and can chat to anyone and put them at ease. Is this taught, then?
Jilly Cooper's 'Class' is a brilliant book - quite dated now as it was written in the 70s but it's amazing how many of the characteristics still ring true now.

I am originally from West London but now in a different part of the south east, everyone I know uses the lengthened vowel for the words Bath, Laugh, grass, that use is standard middle class southern pronunciations. Where I lived and went to school in West London was a huge mix of social classes and very diverse so you would hear that pronunciation regularly in my parent’s circles but they weren’t upper class, they were the educated class and were/are liberal, political and culturally interested in the Arts. I wouldn’t say ‘posh’ is just upper class people.

sashh · 22/08/2024 10:19

TheCadoganArms · 21/08/2024 08:42

I think the confidence thing is very much a product of independent/public schools. All those kids are being groomed for uni, its not a case of ''I hope I get a (any) job after a school" its more of a "I will get into a good uni and study law/engineering/medicine" Throw in all those extra curricular activities (Duke of Edinburgh, sailing, theatre productions, debating club, ski trips etc) that your local comp can only dream of providing to the mix that add to a child's development in soft social skills it's hardly surprising that 18 year old girl/boy is brimming with confidence by the time they leave school.

They are not just groomed for uni, they know which Oxford college they are going to from year 1.

Zen74 · 22/08/2024 10:41

Someone above observed their houses are immaculate because they have staff, and in fact it’s my experience that UC houses are never immaculate because it’s always someone else’s job to tidy and clean so they just leave a mess wherever they go.

Immaculate is a UMC concept as is “smart”, not UC. I know bona fide posh people who say “posh”, “dinner” and “toilet” - as above, it’s code-switching. It’s easy to modify your vocabulary to hide in plain sight, but not so easy to hide the inherited acres and noblesse oblige.

TheCadoganArms · 22/08/2024 10:48

sashh · 22/08/2024 10:19

They are not just groomed for uni, they know which Oxford college they are going to from year 1.

I think that might be true of the top tier public schools.

At the end of the day there are public schools and there are public schools. Most are minor institutions that nobody has ever heard of outside of the town they are based in. They offer small well behaved classes, decent facilities, some nice extra curricular activities and place a premium on getting a place at uni and eventually a well paying career. The parents who send their kids to these schools for the most part are ‘normal’ insofar as being middle class professional types who do not necessarily have money to burn.

Then you get the likes the Eton, Harrow, Marlborough, Charterhouse, Winchester etc. These places cost £50k a year before all the add ons. Yes they offer small classes and excellent facilities too, but you are not attending these schools just for that, you are buying membership of an exclusive club and support network that will serve you for the rest of your days. These elite institutions look down on the minor public schools just as much as they do the local comp schools. If you attend one of these schools the chances are your parents have proper wealth (often of the intergenerational kind), land and the odd title would not be uncommon. The environment that is cultivated between these schools and the families results in children with a massive sense of entitlement, an entitlement that has been nurtured since birth, an entitlement that prevents you from working in a normal career, you exist in a bubble with your similarly privileged peers who see interacting with your average member of the public akin to going on a safari.

Baleful · 22/08/2024 10:48

sashh · 22/08/2024 10:19

They are not just groomed for uni, they know which Oxford college they are going to from year 1.

How do they know that? They may know which one previous generations of their family were at, and aim to go there, but even if (as in the case of someone I knew at Oxford) their grandfather donated vast funds for the library, they’re by no means guaranteed a place at any college.

The guy I knew ended up at a less prestigious neighbouring college which had traditionally had a longtime rivalry over everything from rowing to the Norrington table. I think he could see his grandfather’s library across the road from his accommodation…