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What are markers that identify stangers or acquaintances as posh? Lighthearted!

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Coffeeandacupcake · 20/08/2024 16:02

For me, it's a combination of accent, subtle, expensive haircut & highlights or that perfect shade of blonde..

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MyStylish40s · 21/08/2024 12:03

It used to be no tattoos, but I think that’s changing among younger posh people

No regional accent, good teeth, usually slim

BlandBlancmange · 21/08/2024 12:03

There’s a myth that the UC are faultlessly polite. They are, to your face, but in private they rip into the habits of the lower orders mercilessly. You are born into their world, or marry in to it but if so you never belong yourself, only your children do. Private school is tribal and thereby not optional, if you’re in their set, state is not considered ever. A social peer group know each other from pre prep. You may be invited to their social activities but you’re transitory so no one takes much notice of you. Unless you’re like an exotic pet, eg an outstanding sportsperson of colour, to flourish their ‘acceptance of diversity’ credentials.

my uncle by marriage was UC, my aunt not so, and I observed her being pilloried by her in-laws, and even her spouse, over decades. She was beautiful and vivacious and he handsome and charming but over time it was not a happy marriage. My aunt was my guardian while I was at boarding school so I had regular opportunity to ponder during exeats and holidays. You can’t just hold a knife and fork in a different way or change the name of the evening meal you eat, there are a million tells and you’ll not ‘pass’ if you aren’t of them from birth.

I am Lower middle class, you won’t separate me from my coasters, I twitch when a cold glass condenses water and leaves a ring on a decent wooden table 😁. I am clever, very well educated and financially comfortable, I can ride, ski and sail and I’m at peace with my place in the pecking order these days, but for a long time I felt like I was looking from the outside of a fish bowl to the inside. I can hold my own in socially elite company but I know I am irrelevant to them and their world is not mine. There really are bands of social groups and surprisingly little interaction between them in England in IME. Deciding you want to start eating avocados or holiday in a cottage in Cornwall has bugger all to do with it and will make no difference overall.

Coffeeandacupcake · 21/08/2024 12:07

BlandBlancmange · 21/08/2024 12:03

There’s a myth that the UC are faultlessly polite. They are, to your face, but in private they rip into the habits of the lower orders mercilessly. You are born into their world, or marry in to it but if so you never belong yourself, only your children do. Private school is tribal and thereby not optional, if you’re in their set, state is not considered ever. A social peer group know each other from pre prep. You may be invited to their social activities but you’re transitory so no one takes much notice of you. Unless you’re like an exotic pet, eg an outstanding sportsperson of colour, to flourish their ‘acceptance of diversity’ credentials.

my uncle by marriage was UC, my aunt not so, and I observed her being pilloried by her in-laws, and even her spouse, over decades. She was beautiful and vivacious and he handsome and charming but over time it was not a happy marriage. My aunt was my guardian while I was at boarding school so I had regular opportunity to ponder during exeats and holidays. You can’t just hold a knife and fork in a different way or change the name of the evening meal you eat, there are a million tells and you’ll not ‘pass’ if you aren’t of them from birth.

I am Lower middle class, you won’t separate me from my coasters, I twitch when a cold glass condenses water and leaves a ring on a decent wooden table 😁. I am clever, very well educated and financially comfortable, I can ride, ski and sail and I’m at peace with my place in the pecking order these days, but for a long time I felt like I was looking from the outside of a fish bowl to the inside. I can hold my own in socially elite company but I know I am irrelevant to them and their world is not mine. There really are bands of social groups and surprisingly little interaction between them in England in IME. Deciding you want to start eating avocados or holiday in a cottage in Cornwall has bugger all to do with it and will make no difference overall.

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Really interesting insight, thank you @BlandBlancmange

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Dandeliontea123 · 21/08/2024 12:40

Noras has nailed it.

Nellieinthebarn · 21/08/2024 12:43

Round here it would be jodhpurs with the arse hanging out, Ariat yard boots caked in horse poo and straw, a filthy 4x4, bits of hay stuck in their hair and a small terrier.

Baleful · 21/08/2024 14:28

Coffeeandacupcake · 21/08/2024 11:03

But to be able to fit into aristocratic circles like herself & Pippa did surely meant they were very comfortable with themselves & had a very privileged background themselves.

But ‘comfortable with yourself’ and ‘aristocratic’ and ‘able to function socially in aristocratic circles’ are three different things.

My dad was a binman, and I grew up on a sink estate, but I went to one of the grander Oxford colleges and met people from very different bits of the class pyramid. I didn’t become longterm friends with any of the grandest types, though they were amiable enough, but friends married into country gentry families, of various levels of wealth/non-wealth, I know a scattering of ‘Honourables’, and, from a completely different part of my life, I know a very ordinary MC girl who married a younger son of one of the big aristocratic families — her job meant she moved in those circles, but her background is ‘comfortable middle-class, GP mum, solicitor dad’.

MadeleineMummy · 21/08/2024 15:51

Eyebrows that meet in the middle and tails due to inbreeding as well as several congenital illnesses and a lower IQ due to intermarrying between cousins. Usually with an ancestor that was a better killer than anyone else and forced himself on more women to increase lineage. Possibly could also be the illegitimate offspring of royalty. The package of sociopathy was then wrapped up in some form of pageantry and artifice so that the peasant classes would worship them as it was ordained by God, rather than gained through murder or marriage.

mugglewump · 21/08/2024 17:12

Men in pinkish chinos. Think Portillo.

63isMe · 21/08/2024 17:14

Accent and courtesy/politeness

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 17:15

63isMe · 21/08/2024 17:14

Accent and courtesy/politeness

Courtesy is neither limited to nor necessarily employed by the upper classes.

foreverbasil · 21/08/2024 17:19

Nanana1 · 20/08/2024 17:05

Long hair with no parting

How would long hair fall without a parting?

It's held back by a velvet hairband 😂

BobbyBiscuits · 21/08/2024 17:20

I think the very posh often have a bit of a scruffy air to them. They're not often as polished as the upper middle classes.
Like they're so posh they've never had to work so they kind of don't need to impress anyone with their appearance. Like driving old and dirty cars for example. I find the very posh kind of geeky and awkward seeming in many ways. But I think that might be the accent.

Zen74 · 21/08/2024 17:57

There are different groups of posh people, and they don’t dress or behave in the same way all of the time - like other minorities, they code-switch constantly.

I live in London and know landed, titled and aristocratic families from several different countries; our children went to the same state primary school.

One unifier of posh people no matter the country of origin or origin of wealth - their houses are never tidy or even particularly clean when they entertain.

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 18:04

Certain names are associated with poshness... I used to think the name Sophie was terribly posh, but I don't think that's the case any more. I think Camilla is still quite posh. And Venetia.

TheShellBeach · 21/08/2024 18:14

They never say "dessert".

They do not have those awful pouty lip fillers of which chavs are so fond.

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 18:18

TheShellBeach · 21/08/2024 18:14

They never say "dessert".

They do not have those awful pouty lip fillers of which chavs are so fond.

What do they say instead of dessert?

I don't think they say "serviette" either. Or lounge.

Perhaps a Posh Person can clarify.

Coffeeandacupcake · 21/08/2024 18:20

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 18:04

Certain names are associated with poshness... I used to think the name Sophie was terribly posh, but I don't think that's the case any more. I think Camilla is still quite posh. And Venetia.

Names & holiday destinations... Eg upper class very simple names William, Henry, Catherine, Beatrice etc.. Holidays Summer - France, Cornwall.. Winter ski France again (Chamonix or Coutcheval) or Switzerland

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thesnailandthewhale · 21/08/2024 18:24

(Men): mustard or red chinos with quirky socks

Moveoverdarlin · 21/08/2024 18:26

Universal marker would be accent.

Misorchid · 21/08/2024 18:26

Westfacing · 20/08/2024 16:26

Posh people don’t do golf! 😱

Oh yes they do!

Baleful · 21/08/2024 18:44

MadeleineMummy · 21/08/2024 15:51

Eyebrows that meet in the middle and tails due to inbreeding as well as several congenital illnesses and a lower IQ due to intermarrying between cousins. Usually with an ancestor that was a better killer than anyone else and forced himself on more women to increase lineage. Possibly could also be the illegitimate offspring of royalty. The package of sociopathy was then wrapped up in some form of pageantry and artifice so that the peasant classes would worship them as it was ordained by God, rather than gained through murder or marriage.

And the Hapsburg jaw. Ending with poor Charles II, sleeping with mummies and by his father’s grave, and dying with a s8bgle black testicle and a ‘heart the size of a peppercorn’.

Hola! magazine would have been far more fun in those days.

Moveoverdarlin · 21/08/2024 18:47

No false boobs, nails or teeth. No tattoos, generally slim.

Misorchid · 21/08/2024 18:56

RP and isn’t Lydia Millen.

Pudding, sitting room and napkin, Always.

Cantalever · 21/08/2024 18:58

Accent, good manners and decent shoes!

CharlotteStreetW1 · 21/08/2024 19:09

MelodyMalone · 21/08/2024 18:04

Certain names are associated with poshness... I used to think the name Sophie was terribly posh, but I don't think that's the case any more. I think Camilla is still quite posh. And Venetia.

The only Venetia I've met was a sales agent on the new build estate where I bought my first flat and she was bloody useless. Could not have been less posh.