Thread 6 Starmer: We're going to need a bigger skip!

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I agree. I've read that it was handled by an agent though so it's possible he didn't know. The proof will be in the pudding - does he actually fast to put things right now he definitely knows?

It's easy to blame an intermediary if you can't be bothered to check. His actions now will be the proof of the man.

Exactly @countrygirl99

In the unlikely event of my owning 15 rental properties, I would probably use a managing agent. And I would be careful to ensure that I also employed a maintenance company to carry out necessary repairs promptly when reported by tenants. The television pictures of the property show there are clear risks to the health of the tenants. Further, they have had a long time to develop and haven't been touched in years. I live in a rental. My electrics and smoke alarms are checked annually. Gas boiler ditto. That's the very least a tenant should expect and also ensures the landlord can insure his property. I will happily eat my hat, and any number of MN submitted hats, if there are any preventive measures in place in this slum landlords properties. Deregulation. Fabulous, isn't it?

I'd I was StarmerI would call him in for the rollicking of all rollickings and I would want on my desk within 48 hours a detailed plan showing 1)who his new agent is and how he pla s to move it or them. 2) plans to find suitable alternative temporary accommodation , at no cost to the tenants above their existing rent. 3) a promise that no tenant will be moved back in until the flats are in a satisfactory condition. And if he didn't do that I'd remove the whip.

If I were Starmer, I would send Rayner to sort him out

But seriously, his excuses are flimsy. Let's see if his actions match his words.

I agree with this.

If he seriously didn't know and is horrified he'd act yesterday.

He can worry about who pays (he may have recourse from management company) after the fact.

But I fail to understand how he can have 15 properties and no knowledge of how they run. Happy to take the money though.

Duncin yeah AR would have him sorted

I agree @countrygirl99

Benefit of the doubt until we see what action is taken and, more importantly, how swiftly.

They need to suspend the whip.

Yet another argument to have proper regulations of estate agents, letting agents and property management companies.

Is Angela Rayner still in Ibiza?

Very good point.

From Dan Hodges in the DM, The biggest deportation flight in history and how Labour have drawn first blood in battle against the small boat crossings

The Rwanda obsession was preventing government from getting on with doing the basics of managing the asylum system

It's paywalled so there are screenshots in the tweet

https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1830164143422242999

I think Parliament is back tomorrow

Thanks for the link.

Why on earth did the Tories not do something like this? It's been about 6 weeks of a new government, and there has been action on this problem. Yet all the Tories did was bleat and mutter about Rwanda

Why did the Tories not do this? Because there are - in thrir strangely warped view of the world - more votes in keeping the Hate Wars running than in quietly solving a problem.

He’d soon shape up, wouldn’t he? I completely agree with everything you all say. The new government needs to be transparently intolerant of this kind of stuff.

IMO the Conservatives didn't focus on this because they wanted to frame Rwanda as the sole method of tackling the issue.
Spreading resources over a number of different avenues would have undermined that.

Good to read that Cooper & Bas Javid have a positive working relationship, not suggesting that should be a surprise just that it has to be influential in making systems work well.

Interesting that there is a reference in the last tweet to potentially implementing some off shore processing (so different to the Rwanda plan) - I'll want to see how that checks out financially and whether they actually have some evidence that it functions as a deterrent as I've seen diddly of that so far. They won't get a free pass on that.

She will be at home doing the holiday washing today then.

I fear I have loftier ambitions. Our elected Prime Minister really should not be wasting a second on this affair. That should be what we have systems and processes for (as I posted previously). And - I mean this politely - the press can go fuck themselves every which way possible over it.

I get that it's important directly to the tenants. But I would hope our PM is dealing with issues that affect millions.

This isn't giving a free pass. But if the press think they can get Starmer to do a little dance every time they find a spelling mistake in a press release, then the next 5 years will pass incredibly slowly and see nothing done.

IMO the Conservatives didn't focus on this because they wanted to frame Rwanda as the sole method of tackling the issue.

As far as I know the current leadership candidates are talking about restoring it when they win power.

When? 😂

That shows they haven't learnt a thing.

As long as they carry on not learning a thing the country can be rebuilt.

I was disgusted at the pictures of Angela Rayner partying in Ibiza. What was she thinking? FFS. There isn't even a lockdown going on. Political scandal just isn't what it used to be.