Thread 6 Starmer: We're going to need a bigger skip!

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Thread 5 Starmer: keeping on keeping on http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/5136094-thread-5-starmer-keeping-on-keeping-on

Oh dear, poor Katie, ah well, never mind. 😂

Just sent one to the charity shop, if I'd known I could have sent it to you!!

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Good news about the Hopkins person, Apollo, "God pays debts without money" as my mother would have said.

Same here & since my dgd’s were born I’m even worse, one of my dads sayings newname Yy good news that Hopkins gig cancelled despicable person.

It’s very quiet on here tonight.

I’m on holiday and we never put the news on on holiday. Not even on our phones. It was three days before we even knew the 2011 riots had happened, when we surfaced to do a food shop and were like WTAF? at the newspaper front pages. It’s my retirement goal to end up somewhere like that where it’s 3 months or 3 years before we need to do something about it #cloudcuckooland
Danny Boyle is filming 28 Whatevers Later nearby. Make of that what you will….

I'm away at the Edinburgh Fringe, has there been any news happening?
I'm hoping we can get to a time when politics isn't in the news, because it's progressing with boring competency.
Can we have that please? I'm tired of interesting times.

All seems to be proceeding with competence, yes. I think I’m addicted to drama.

Read this earlier and thought it was interesting (hope the link works).

Essentially Cooper is currently focusing on deportations of failed asylum seekers and has overseen the largest single deportation flight the UK has managed.

'The approach is designed to restore the numbers of returns to what they were when Labour was last in power — from 46,000 a year to almost 27,000 last year. '
There is a particular focus on returns to Vietnam, Pakistan, Albania, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq and India — countries that are in the top 16 for small boat arrivals. Vietnamese arrivals account for 17 per cent of all Channel crossings.

There has also been a 50% increase in the number of National Crime Agency officers sent to work at Europol to identify smuggling gangs.

There is obviously an enormous amount of work to be done to fix and improve existing broken systems. Not easy of course because of the massive backlog of 100,000 asylum seekers that havent been processed at all over the last year.

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/labours-migrant-policy-is-up-in-the-air-drf9bxqw2

The drama will be back with Conference season. Frankly I think we could do without either the conferences or the drama.

Be thankful for what we have 🙏 Have you seen the prospective Tory Leaders line up? Should be entertaining for a while. What a choice 🔥

Wonder how many leaders they will get through in 5 years. Of all the issues they keep bringing up in their campaigns the Tory party being ungovernable is one of them.

We probably should mention the energy price cap increasing as they make the decision to remove winter fuel allowance from a huge number of people. I’m going to be quite disappointed if somewhere there isn’t an announcement about support for fuel bills. Starmer was really good on this in opposition.

We may just have to cross our fingers and hope for a mild winter. Although I have a feeling that isn’t great for ecelogy/food security for some reason.

Labour has made a mistake with the WFA. I can understand that they didn't want to means test as it would cost too much, but only awarding it to those on PC sets the bar too low. Unless it is being linked to other benefits too? I am not sure.

Starmer will give a key note speech on Tuesday

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rx0mdgpnno

This tickled me - I am sure others will appreciate it. Personally it looks like an attempt at some sort of fusion reaction using the densest elements known to science

Sorry for not scrolling back, but a thank you for the person who recommended crumpets in the airfryer

That was me!

And what I had for breakfast this morning

Rwanda war plan was drawn up even as Tories voted it was safe, secret memos show

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rwanda-war-plan-drawn-up-33507936

They always intended to just run rough shod over it as it was a propaganda stunt. Unfortunately one that cost the country a fortune. But it was never going to value for money even if it worked. How does paying all that money for 200 asylum seekers save on hotel bills. Processing them here would have been cheaper and we could process far more.

I'm also not surprised that we are 7 weeks into a new government and we are still finding out about Tory idiocy.

I can turn a blind eye to some stuff because I am a believer they all push the boundaries at times.

But wasting tax payers money on an unworkable stunt having wasted so much on contracts for mates is just unforgivable.

I suspect more Tory idiocy will continue to come to light for some time.

That’s a piece of Labour propaganda pumped out by the Mirror. There have been tensions between Rwanda and the DRC for years, because the most militant and violent wing of the Hutu movement hides out in the DRC. It’s not news or at all ‘secret’.

It always amuses me that the Mail and the Sun get called all sorts on here, but the Mirror is treated as a serious and honest newspaper.

It was the Mirror that started the giant lie about Grant Shapps forcing Sadiq Khan to enlarge the ULEZ zone. A paper treated by Labour as useful idiots.

There have been tensions between Rwanda and the DRC for years, because the most militant and violent wing of the Hutu movement hides out in the DRC. It’s not news or at all ‘secret’.

So it's been going on for years.

It's been known about for years. It's been known that it's not safe for years due to continued unrest bubbling under the surface.

Yet we declared it safe.

And that's all Labour propaganda.

Alrighty then 🧐

In the same way that there’s tension between the north and south of Cyprus, or the north and south of Korea, or between India and Pakistan. But none of Cyprus, South Korea or India is ‘unsafe’.

The courts ruled against Rwanda as a safe third country for processing because the judges held that Rwanda didn’t apply the criteria properly. Not because Rwanda itself isn’t safe.

Some of the opposition to the Rwanda scheme among Labour fans seems racist to me, TBH.

I’m not sad to see the back of the Rwanda policy. But it ought to be junked on honest grounds, not bogus or bigoted ones.

I don't agree with offshore processing and I don't agree it's safe because the government declare it so.

Nor would I agree Korea or India is safe. They don't have exacting high regards for human rights either. India especially as it still has a really strong caste system.

They only did it as a publicity stunt to say they had a deterrent.

Even Tory MPs never thought it would work.