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How am I supposed to stay in the same room as the baby for all naps?!

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Luertiak · 18/08/2024 12:03

Just that really. I understand I am meant to be in the same room as my newborn for all daytime sleeps (obviously they are in the same room as us at night). But if he falls asleep in his moses in the living room am I then seriously not allowed to go for a wee or get a cup of tea or answer the front door to the postman? He sleeps for 2-3 hours solid sometimes. If you have a second DC then how do people work it then - surely you need to move around the house during the day?

I know people will say "the sling" but I can't believe that absolutely everyone with a newborn has them nap in a sling.

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crumblingschools · 20/08/2024 19:35

@Skodacool some didn’t hence the guidance

LizzeyBenett · 20/08/2024 19:41

Same room Is to reduce the risk of SIDS but your allowed pop in and out just don't leave them for prolonged periods

Gogogo12345 · 20/08/2024 22:02

LizzeyBenett · 20/08/2024 19:41

Same room Is to reduce the risk of SIDS but your allowed pop in and out just don't leave them for prolonged periods

But does it reduce the risk really? If so how comes the scandi countries with babies left to sleep alone outside have lower rates?

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WhatMummyMakesSheEats · 20/08/2024 22:56

I think a lot of replies are from older people before the advice changed. The advice isn’t to watch them it’s meant to regulate their breathing having someone in the room near them I believe. I had a baby I couldn’t put down for naps, but if I’d had the privilege I would’ve gone for a pee. I put her in her next to me to pee when she was awake also

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 21/08/2024 16:10

Gogogo12345 · 20/08/2024 22:02

But does it reduce the risk really? If so how comes the scandi countries with babies left to sleep alone outside have lower rates?

Personally I think there's nothing better than fresh air. Whenever mine have had a stuffy nose, little cough or rattly chest I get them wrapped up and get them out and does the world of good. Even for my asthma when it was bad I couldn't bear being indoors had to get outside. So think obviously being outdoors is beneficial for being able to breathe better and get more oxygen. That's of course in my totally none scientific opinion :)

StrawberriesandMango · 21/08/2024 16:21

If your leaving the room to pee or make tea and worried then baby video monitor is the answer

Madamum18 · 22/08/2024 16:55

This is a new mum trying to work out caring for her baby, keeping them safe, recovering from.a tricky birth, hearing difficult to manage advice and just asking what others do! I simply cant believe the sanctimonious, unkind or downright nasty, or scaremongeringly ridiculous comments from some posters in response

Just THINK before you post and dont be so nasty judgemental or derogatory. It's a good job others were kind and helpful

GreenTeaLikesMe · 22/08/2024 17:54

Tell the HV to piss off, seriously. They have little training and few qualifications and they come out with some serious nonsense.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 22/08/2024 17:58

As for the NHs - if they are so concerned about babies’ safety, they could start off by overhauling their own substandard postpartum hospital care.

Dygger · 22/08/2024 18:40

I'm also reminded of various desperate posts from women who've taken their children into hospital and then been expected to stay by the bed 24/7 without food or drink or a change of clothes because the wards are so poorly staffed but the children are not supposed to be left. It comes to something when children on a paediatric ward are neglected if a parents can't be there constantly.

Abra1t · 22/08/2024 18:46

GreenTeaLikesMe · 22/08/2024 17:54

Tell the HV to piss off, seriously. They have little training and few qualifications and they come out with some serious nonsense.

They are registered nurses or midwives, with additional qualifications. Which doesn’t mean they can’t vary in usefulness, I agree.

superplumb · 22/08/2024 19:46

Baby monitor. Havnt read the whole thread but I'm guessing it's your 1st baby. It's normal to feel overwhelmed and worried. The baby monitor I used was a angel care woth the mat too. I had a moses basket downstairs where mine napped when they were new born so in daytime I was around although sometimes in a different room. At night when they were in their cot, then I'd take the monitor to my bedroom so I could still hear

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2024 19:48

superplumb · 22/08/2024 19:46

Baby monitor. Havnt read the whole thread but I'm guessing it's your 1st baby. It's normal to feel overwhelmed and worried. The baby monitor I used was a angel care woth the mat too. I had a moses basket downstairs where mine napped when they were new born so in daytime I was around although sometimes in a different room. At night when they were in their cot, then I'd take the monitor to my bedroom so I could still hear

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why would that help, they don't breath!

superplumb · 22/08/2024 19:51

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2024 19:48

why would that help, they don't breath!

You cannot keep watching a newborn 24/7. When is mum meant to sleep?
If you read my whole thread you would see it came with a mat. This is quite common now. If breathing changes it sets on alarm.

DragonFly98 · 22/08/2024 20:27

superplumb · 22/08/2024 19:51

You cannot keep watching a newborn 24/7. When is mum meant to sleep?
If you read my whole thread you would see it came with a mat. This is quite common now. If breathing changes it sets on alarm.

You don't need to watch them and a non hospital grade breathing mat is not reliable.

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/08/2024 20:41

superplumb · 22/08/2024 19:51

You cannot keep watching a newborn 24/7. When is mum meant to sleep?
If you read my whole thread you would see it came with a mat. This is quite common now. If breathing changes it sets on alarm.

I have the owlet sock with video monitor. It’s amazing.

suburburban · 22/08/2024 20:43

I wonder how babies ever survived in the 20th century

I did have a baby monitor

ForGreyKoala · 22/08/2024 22:06

suburburban · 22/08/2024 20:43

I wonder how babies ever survived in the 20th century

I did have a baby monitor

You would wonder wouldn't you. I'm old enough to remember a time before baby monitors, when mothers most certainly didn't sit in the same room as their babys 24/7.

Before people rush on here to tell me one in two babies died in those days, they really didn't. I only personally know one family who lost a baby to SIDs, and that was in the days when it was quite common (when I was young enough to know lots of people having babies).

GorgeousTulips · 23/08/2024 02:34

ForGreyKoala · 22/08/2024 22:06

You would wonder wouldn't you. I'm old enough to remember a time before baby monitors, when mothers most certainly didn't sit in the same room as their babys 24/7.

Before people rush on here to tell me one in two babies died in those days, they really didn't. I only personally know one family who lost a baby to SIDs, and that was in the days when it was quite common (when I was young enough to know lots of people having babies).

Everyone used to put their babies out in their prams if the weather was okay. OH spent the first two years of his life virtually in the garden in his pram! My children all slept in their own room from being newborn. I used a baby monitor .

HoppingPavlova · 23/08/2024 07:21

Does anyone remember those window cages for flats that didn’t have gardens? People had these cage things bolted to the outside of the building around a window and would put babies and young kids out in them to get fresh air?

Vettrianofan · 23/08/2024 07:30

HarrytheHobbit · 18/08/2024 12:18

You are taking the advice too literally. You can go to the loo, make a cup of tea etc. You don't have to hover by the cot maintaining a constant vigil.

If you have multiple children then it's impossible anyway. Never going to happen. The baby had to just get left sleeping whilst helping look after toddler or doing homework with older DC. Or getting on with making dinner etc.

WhatNoRaisins · 23/08/2024 07:34

It's like that stuff about formula feeding on demand whilst also making it fresh by a prolonged method each time. It's no use just giving a guideline to tired new parents. If something seems highly impractical then I also need to be given advice on how to do it.

I'm genuinely curious as to what these HVs would recommend for multiple children. Employing a nanny? Locking everyone in a room with a sleeping baby?

MarvellousMonsters · 23/08/2024 08:33

crumblingschools · 20/08/2024 14:57

It would be interesting to know whether there are any incidences of SIDS with baby sleeping outdoors.

I wonder whether the lower rates in those countries are due to parents not falling asleep with babies in unsafe conditions. Or babies aren't being kept in overheated rooms

I'd be interested to know this too. If it's low I suspect it's because it's not dark & silent outdoors. There's always some kind of background noise, and it's light. Keeping the baby near you when it's asleep reduces SIDS risk as they are aware of movement/noise and this stops them dropping into a very deep sleep. It's the long deep sleep that's unnatural for babies and it thought to be linked with pauses in breathing that can be fatal.

Gogogo12345 · 23/08/2024 08:38

MarvellousMonsters · 23/08/2024 08:33

I'd be interested to know this too. If it's low I suspect it's because it's not dark & silent outdoors. There's always some kind of background noise, and it's light. Keeping the baby near you when it's asleep reduces SIDS risk as they are aware of movement/noise and this stops them dropping into a very deep sleep. It's the long deep sleep that's unnatural for babies and it thought to be linked with pauses in breathing that can be fatal.

Surely if you had tv on in the front room while baby slept it would also not be dark and silent there either? TBH none of my babies were ever taught to sleep in dark silent places.

I can see the point of sleeping in parents bedroom to hear them moving/ breathing in night if that's the case. But I put DD2 in with DD1 once she was about 10 weeks old.surely must have same effect?

crumblingschools · 23/08/2024 09:03

@Gogogo12345 I’m guessing telling parents to put their baby to sleep in front of the tv for hours wouldn’t make good parenting advice!