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Double stabbing in Leicester Square

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happyhemsby · 12/08/2024 14:26

Breaking news just in

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MadameMassiveSalad · 13/08/2024 01:44

Anonemouse1 · 12/08/2024 15:20

From Sky news:

A witness, who performs as Darth Vader, said he saw a young, white, skinny male dressed in a black T-shirt and jeans putting the girl in a headlock and stabbing her

So will be mental health issues rather than terrorism.

No riots then.

MadameMassiveSalad · 13/08/2024 01:45

Beth216 · 12/08/2024 15:52

Horrible incident, wouldn't surprise me either if he knew the victims.

Well done Abdullah though, only in his 20's himself, jumping on the attacker and kicking the knife from him.

Yep amazing bravery from Abdullah 👏

SquirmOfEels · 13/08/2024 08:13

Police don't, it seems, see this as a MH issue.

The suspect has now been charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article (not remanded for MH assessment)

He has been named as Ioan Pintaru aged 32 of no fixed abode. He'll appear before magistrates later today

Contrary to earlier reports, the mother was not injured. The blood on her that led to assumption as scene that she was, was from her daughter, whose age has now been released: 11.

KenAdams · 13/08/2024 08:20

The media are shouting the security guards name as if to say "look, brown people have redeemed themselves!". We don't need to do that. We aren't all the same.

EasterIssland · 13/08/2024 09:26

KenAdams · 13/08/2024 08:20

The media are shouting the security guards name as if to say "look, brown people have redeemed themselves!". We don't need to do that. We aren't all the same.

Did you feel the same when you read the news about the heroic yoga teacher a few weeks ago? Or the man from the company next door?

Jellybeanbag · 13/08/2024 09:33

EasterIssland · 13/08/2024 09:26

Did you feel the same when you read the news about the heroic yoga teacher a few weeks ago? Or the man from the company next door?

Good point.

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Yes, this. The media are reporting facts available to them, it’s some people on social media that are making such an almighty fuss about the name of the man who tackled the attacker. Although now the attacker’s name has been released the Poundshop Robinsons are mainly concentrating on that, because it’s not ‘John Smith’ (or something chosen to sound as down to earth good old British like ‘Tommy Robinson’ Hmm)

Comefromaway · 13/08/2024 10:13

Yes, I guess it won't be long (if it isn't already happening) that people will be back on the send the immigrants back rhetoric (the name sounds Romanian in origin).

I saw a video on Twitter allegedly of the attacker being held by police (seemed genu9ine as it was right outside the tea place) and he had a look in his eyes and was very jittery. The same kind of look that I see in the monkey dust addicts in town.

SquirmOfEels · 13/08/2024 15:29

A few more details in the latest article on SKY

news.sky.com/story/leicester-square-man-charged-after-girl-11-stabbed-eight-times-on-visit-to-london-13196235

Comefromaway · 13/08/2024 15:37

Scary. We were there as tourists exactly one week prior. It was full of families enjoying London. I hope the little girl hs support to come to terms with what happens and I really hope she isn't permanently disfigured

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 13/08/2024 16:00

TheGriffle · 12/08/2024 16:32

Always women and children. These ‘men’
don't go stabbing 40 year old male body builders
do they. Fucking cowards.

I hope the woman and child make a swift recovery.

Yeah it's funny how they can have such MH issues but still don't pick on the big blokes, eh? Absolute scumbag.

OrangeSquareBlob · 13/08/2024 17:18

Why is this girls? I understand it's mental health issues but how they are expressed takes on the prevailing ideas of society. Are there ways we can protest against violence against women?

oObyeOo · 13/08/2024 17:35

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 00:47

White man so simply cannot be terror, can it! 🙄

I notice X has been awfully quiet. Nobody planning on rioting when a pink person stabs kids!

Thank God for men like Abdullah, and the two black men who carried the injured girls in the Southport attack to safety, one of which ran into the building as others were running out and came face to face with the attacker.

Good men doing good things, and in the face of so much hatred.

What about the white guy from next door who was stabbed in the leg in Southport. Does he not get a well done from you either?

DysonSphere · 13/08/2024 17:54

oObyeOo · 13/08/2024 17:35

What about the white guy from next door who was stabbed in the leg in Southport. Does he not get a well done from you either?

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

wonderingwandering99 · 13/08/2024 18:16

Dogneverstopseating · 12/08/2024 23:25

@wonderingwandering99 When was the little girl in Manchester?

In 2020 right before lockdown

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 18:21

oObyeOo · 13/08/2024 17:35

What about the white guy from next door who was stabbed in the leg in Southport. Does he not get a well done from you either?

I haven't seen or heard anything about him but well done for getting your little dig in, hun.

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 18:24

OrangeSquareBlob · 13/08/2024 17:18

Why is this girls? I understand it's mental health issues but how they are expressed takes on the prevailing ideas of society. Are there ways we can protest against violence against women?

I agree that this is the real issue.

The government have stated that we are now at pandemic levels of violence against women and girls in the UK.

THIS is where we should be putting our efforts.

I vote we start with that raging twunt Andrew Tate and his ilk online.

OrangeSquareBlob · 13/08/2024 18:36

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 18:24

I agree that this is the real issue.

The government have stated that we are now at pandemic levels of violence against women and girls in the UK.

THIS is where we should be putting our efforts.

I vote we start with that raging twunt Andrew Tate and his ilk online.

I am extremely concerned about it. I am extremely fortunate in that I've never experienced it directly for a very long time but I'm starting to get a feeling that if we don't act society is going to go fundamentally wrong / backwards.

I for one am not going to let that happen. Having been fortunate to benefit from the fight for women's rights, gain an education, live an independent life, I'm not letting that be taken away from a future generation.
I'm not really sure where to start though. Not that my one voice can do a lot but collectively we can.

DysonSphere · 13/08/2024 18:45

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 18:24

I agree that this is the real issue.

The government have stated that we are now at pandemic levels of violence against women and girls in the UK.

THIS is where we should be putting our efforts.

I vote we start with that raging twunt Andrew Tate and his ilk online.

Surely it's just that women and girls are by definition physically less strong than men and are thus easier targets for men who can't 'win' or suceed in society? In that sense they are always the preferred target.

I often think it's the passive aggressive males who are actually most dangerous, less so the loud, typically 'Alpha' Andrew Tate types for all the nonsense he spouts. It's the passive aggressive, pretend to be nice and can't-win-against-the-other-men types who are happy to gaslight, mansplain and take medals away from female athletes because they will only rank 334th amongst other men in their class but rank 1st amongst the women for example.

partystress · 13/08/2024 18:54

I’m up for being part of A Million Women March. I’ll take any kind of woman alongside, even the XY kind, to fill Whitehall and Parliament Square. I’m happy to suspend the battle to defend our definition to focus on this because it is now an epidemic. I just want to see women in huge numbers, peacefully assembling to raise awareness of the scale of this problem. I’d like speakers to do just two things.

First state the facts: the statistics about MVAWG, the statistics about the lengths women go to to avoid harm - the extent to which our lives/spheres/freedoms are smaller than men’s - which is the product of this terrorism.

And then I would like some calmly stated requests - for proper monitoring and accountability of police forces; for young people’s exposure to porn to be technologically and legally restricted; for the school curriculum and regulatory frameworks to address misogyny with the same level of seriousness as racism and homophobia; and for parliament to deal with issues rooted in misogyny with total transparency and for any implication of approval from an MP for anyone on a list of proscribed speakers/ organisations (eg Tate) to be grounds for suspension.

GripeOfTheDay · 13/08/2024 19:31

partystress · 13/08/2024 18:54

I’m up for being part of A Million Women March. I’ll take any kind of woman alongside, even the XY kind, to fill Whitehall and Parliament Square. I’m happy to suspend the battle to defend our definition to focus on this because it is now an epidemic. I just want to see women in huge numbers, peacefully assembling to raise awareness of the scale of this problem. I’d like speakers to do just two things.

First state the facts: the statistics about MVAWG, the statistics about the lengths women go to to avoid harm - the extent to which our lives/spheres/freedoms are smaller than men’s - which is the product of this terrorism.

And then I would like some calmly stated requests - for proper monitoring and accountability of police forces; for young people’s exposure to porn to be technologically and legally restricted; for the school curriculum and regulatory frameworks to address misogyny with the same level of seriousness as racism and homophobia; and for parliament to deal with issues rooted in misogyny with total transparency and for any implication of approval from an MP for anyone on a list of proscribed speakers/ organisations (eg Tate) to be grounds for suspension.

Well

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 21:14

DysonSphere · 13/08/2024 18:45

Surely it's just that women and girls are by definition physically less strong than men and are thus easier targets for men who can't 'win' or suceed in society? In that sense they are always the preferred target.

I often think it's the passive aggressive males who are actually most dangerous, less so the loud, typically 'Alpha' Andrew Tate types for all the nonsense he spouts. It's the passive aggressive, pretend to be nice and can't-win-against-the-other-men types who are happy to gaslight, mansplain and take medals away from female athletes because they will only rank 334th amongst other men in their class but rank 1st amongst the women for example.

I think there's some conflation going on here - I'm talking about violence against women, rather than trans women in women's sports etc.

Andrew Tate absolutely preaches hate against women. He is an unashamed misogynist. He may also have literal blood on his hands if these human trafficking charges stick.

Shifts in societal thinking are incredibly difficult to bring about but something has to be done. Men cannot keep attacking and killing women at the rate they are.

Perhaps most worrying is that, according to government stats released last month, of all reported incidents of violence against women and girls (to include sexual assault/revenge porn etc) the most common age group in female victims is aged15 and the perpetrators between 14 and 16. Boys are harming girls at an alarming rate and some will go on to be men who kill.

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 21:18

OrangeSquareBlob · 13/08/2024 18:36

I am extremely concerned about it. I am extremely fortunate in that I've never experienced it directly for a very long time but I'm starting to get a feeling that if we don't act society is going to go fundamentally wrong / backwards.

I for one am not going to let that happen. Having been fortunate to benefit from the fight for women's rights, gain an education, live an independent life, I'm not letting that be taken away from a future generation.
I'm not really sure where to start though. Not that my one voice can do a lot but collectively we can.

We are stronger together.

Just look at the US at the moment (not very often I say THAT! 😂) - the way women are coming together to support Kamala Harris and oppose the anti female rhetoric of Trump and JD Sports Vance. It's just wonderful to see women standing together and for each other. What's happening out there with regards to female reproductive rights is truly terrifying.

OrangeSquareBlob · 13/08/2024 22:18

StaunchMomma · 13/08/2024 21:14

I think there's some conflation going on here - I'm talking about violence against women, rather than trans women in women's sports etc.

Andrew Tate absolutely preaches hate against women. He is an unashamed misogynist. He may also have literal blood on his hands if these human trafficking charges stick.

Shifts in societal thinking are incredibly difficult to bring about but something has to be done. Men cannot keep attacking and killing women at the rate they are.

Perhaps most worrying is that, according to government stats released last month, of all reported incidents of violence against women and girls (to include sexual assault/revenge porn etc) the most common age group in female victims is aged15 and the perpetrators between 14 and 16. Boys are harming girls at an alarming rate and some will go on to be men who kill.

This is deeply concerning. Was it this bad pre pandemic?

I'm wondering about the impact on mental health of the pandemic and same impact on social media consumption.

There needs to be a holistic approach - if a young person is presenting with mental health issues, is an assessment of risk in their relationships done? Etc.
There needs to be some kind of national campaign about young people's mental health.

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