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I’m personally not okay with rioting but understand why it’s happening.
What is the best way to fix this issue and do you think it is mass immigration that has caused it?

"Home Office figures cited by the Financial Times in August last year showed that the annual asylum cost reached £3.96 billionin the year up to 2023—double that of the previous year and six times higher than 2018."
The illegal immigrants - because these people seem not to be genuine asylum seekers- are taking resources from the public purse. The 'woke' left wing commentators are not the ones competing with illegal immigrants for social housing and NHS resources.

Yes this ^

Shame they didn't riot when the utility companies fleeced us and then the following year published record profits.

Only the most ignorant and stupid people would believe that immigration is the cause of any problems in the UK.

Why would they? most got extra money to pay their bills.

Thank you for the link. You are correct that large numbers believe it. People were directly impacted and it’s not hard to see why they correlate it with immigration. Doesn’t make them thick or racist, just despondent and disillusioned

Asylum seekers don’t get social housing so that’s bollocks.

Are you a HO assessor? How do you know they’re not “genuine”?

Did you get extra money?

They are mostly young angry men who fancy a day out, largely guilt free of throwing bricks at the police and smashing stuff up. A few may care about immigration but most just want to get drunk and feel like they belong, by mixing with their own against a common enemy. There's always been this rebellious streak in society, dislike for the police etc. You wont change it at all.

Yes it’s so strange. It’s like it’s all
swept under the carpet..

I think it’s really quite simple. The police stomped on his head, he’s deemed a racist. This trumps everything. They don’t want to charge them as they’ll be called racist. The fact that they assaulted 3 police is irrelevant.

It’s a 2 tier system.

Any police on here? Can I ask if subduing someone extremely violent by their head is something you have seen before and been trained on?

They'd have been sent off to war years ago and that would have dealt with the problem. But we don't do that now.

They can apply for housing if they have leave to remain. This does impact on the amount of available housing.

No! I don't need it. I also don't begrudge those who need help while helping themselves. But the people we see rampaging through the streets attacking people, nope, I don't think they deserve help.

If you are just going to call people stupid for their opinions then you do not understand why people think it is the problem and the resentment is building.

I think some of it is the rhetoric of migrants living in 5 star hotels, given benefits and put up in accommodation or given immediate health care.. Not sure how much of this is true but I've seen a lot of resentment about this in the papers.
There's the issue of mass immigration and some feeling our culture is not being respected and crime rates have been going up.. Poverty and then the outrage we are still letting these people illegally cross when we have a housing and cost of living crisis.
I don't agree with the attacks but I can see how this has been brewing for a while now.

At it's heart the cause will always be racism and xenophobia. No one rioted over Lucy Letby, or the white man who murdered 2 sisters and their mother. No one is rioting over the white woman who killed that little boy by strapping him to a beanbag.

Adding my voice to others praising this excellent post. Very well said.

Well, this is an example from my experience.

So you are not deprived or in need so this thread isn’t for you.
I don’t think many agree with people rioting, but the underlying causes need to be addressed.
Treating people like second class citizens and looking down on them with disdain will cause more tension will build.

If they’re given leave to remain they’re no longer asylum seekers, they have refugee status because they’ve been granted asylum and no longer have to seek it. Nor are they ‘illegal’.

Only the most ignorant and stupid people would believe that immigration is the cause of any problems in the UK.

Only the most ignorant and stupid people are still not listening to the valid claims of the WC people in this country.

It's not a zero sum game, you are allowed to care about more than one group of people.

You keep saying it's not a race issue @TinklySnail but this gang clearly thinks it is:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13707965/amp/riot-drivers-white-english-protest-middlesbrough.html

The guy behind the Southport attack was a Christian and yet Mosques are being attacked - clear evidence of a bias against a certain religion.

Asylum seekers fleeing war (some of which, we had a hand in!) are being targeted with their accommodations set on fire while they're still inside - clear evidence of a bias against a certain population.

Rather than focusing on the real issues here (funding for public services, skills development, job opportunities and housing), these riots are actively damaging and stretching our already struggling services (police, hospitals etc).

It's absolutely appalling, it makes no sense and does anyone really feel the "streets are safer" today than they were before last week's attack?!

This is not a claim of mine, as a WC person.

These violent, angry rioters do not speak for me or mine.

Doesn't make sense to import nurses - they need their training updated, housing, husbands and children brought over, school places, GPs then have babies, not to mention cultural differences. Add that up and how many home grown kids on bursaries could we fund - the NHS/Government have boobed big time.

UK had 56 million people when I was a child, now 67 million. That not UK people having loads of kids. Nobody has built enough homes over the last 50 years. Hospital beds have been cut. 11million people to house = housing crisis. Asylum seekers do get housed temporarily in some way and then when they get leave to stay get housed. People can see that for themselves so I don’t know why people disassociate the two issues. People are sick of being gaslighted about this.