I’m already fed up of Starmer as PM

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Semi- lighthearted, I know it’s early days, but I’m not convinced of Starmer as an effective leader
He reads from his notes even when giving a short speech; if he really believed in what he is saying, why the need?
He doesn’t seem to have the leadership X factor and doesn’t seem to have a grip on the ongoing riots
Bright new start for UK? Doesn’t feel like it

Hilarious that some seem to be trying to suggest that these thugs are looting Shoezone because of pensioners.

I assure you @Leniriefenstahl that things can get much worse. There are loads of countries worse than UK in the world. Yes it is a prediction but I've seen nothing to reassure me. The rest of your post just agrees with what I said so not sure what your point is. Yes I live in the North but in the South up to a year ago what's that got to do with anything?

It’s a perfectly good time to point that out. Also, more people voted for left wing parties in 2019 than for the Tories even though Boris got an 80 seat majority.

The idea that the general population is largely in support of the actions or sentiment of these rioters isn’t really borne out by any election results or polling. However much some posters might want people to believe it.

Those opinion polls I have looked at since the General Election suggest that Labour have a similar lead over the Conservatives no as they did in May, so I doubt the result would be significantly different.

Polling of voters after the July election shows quite clearly that many Reform voters would not vote Conservative if Reform were not standing.

So you think Labour would win in those circumstances?

I am not sure what sentiment you mean?

Is now a good time to point out that the Conservatives were the 5th most popular party at the General Election among the under 30s?

Did you check how many votes Clem Atlee's Labour party got?

Did Churchill then encourage his supporters to riot because it is so unfair?

They are also looting Iceland on behalf of pensioners.

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Very selfless they are.

Eh? What are you on about? If you're referring to my post I was correcting @pointythings who said the winter fuel allowance is being means tested which isn't true.

I quite agree their strategy was incredibly efficient at maximising the seats they achieved for their vote share. Pat McFadden and his team should be rightly pleased.

Out of interest when we had the referendum for an alternative voting system did you vote in favour of change?

I’m not sure I agree with that.

I do however think that the problem with the FPTP system in the UK is that pretty much every government has only minority support at best. Most people don’t want the incumbent government.

It also leads to parties taking extreme positions. It’s Labour’s turn now with ideological policies that bear no economic scrutiny.

There has to be a better way but the process of dismantling the current system and rebuilding something more appropriate feels like an almost impossible task logistically as there’ll always be one side or another wanting to maintain the status quo.

Eh ? Are you suggesting Rishi has asked his supporters to riot? It really is nuts on MN atm!

Yes, only those who have been debate team captain at a public school should get to be PM.

t’s only been 4 weeks and he’s already caved in to the junior doctors who still want more, as will everyone else in the public sector now the precedent has been set. What next? Refuse collectors? Ambulance, fire fighters, teachers, GPs...

A Winter of Discontent is on the horizon.

He’s attacked pensioners, albeit they don’t all need the heating allowance but means-testing it would cost as much. He’s attacked the green belt. He’s scrapped the Rwanda plan without offering any alternative. His Chancellor (who appears to be wearing the trousers) is about to break the election promise and raise taxes (and we’re supposed to believe the shadow cabinet had no sight of the financial situation).

Now, over the last couple of days, this cloth-eared response to concerns over uncontrolled immigration, siding against indigenous Brits.

Starmer, and the left, have in their stupidity, even managed to unite the IRA and UDF.

This is just the start, I hope to god that Starmer and his minions reconsider their stance. They have already pushed the country to the brink of civil war and getting heavy, instead of listening will tip the country over the edge.

This is the time to listen, not play the blame game. If the idiot rioters left the mosques alone, the Asian community would also join in. Many of them are as pissed off as the rest of the country.

In any case, Starmer is history... he and his cabinet will not be allowed to stay in office much longer.

Has anyone invoked the lettuce countdown yet?

Thanks @noblegiraffe and @absquatulize for making me laugh.

Starmer's doing OK. He is calling out the far right thuggery for what it is. I am glad he is in charge.

You may have missed this from @Zebedee999

Hardly surprised the working classes are now rising up under Labour's watch, Labour have form for despising the working classes. Not to mention their hate for pensioners (let 'em freeze!) and in fact anyone that has bettered themselves. Hate hate hate is all they know.

All the available evidence says that would be the case.

Why are you finding rioting hilarious?

I think you missed the post where I asked whether you had voted in favour of an alternative voting system when we had a referendum on the subject?

Labour is planning to means test the WFA. It is currently not means tested. That is what I said. Not on me that you don't understand a simple sentence.

Flowery language and the ability to throw in a few Latin words for effect did not make Boris Johnson an effective leader
As I said in a previous post, KS hasn’t even had the time to pack his Calvin Klein boxers and the naysayers have already started.

Don't be daft, that's not what I said at all.