I’m already fed up of Starmer as PM

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Semi- lighthearted, I know it’s early days, but I’m not convinced of Starmer as an effective leader
He reads from his notes even when giving a short speech; if he really believed in what he is saying, why the need?
He doesn’t seem to have the leadership X factor and doesn’t seem to have a grip on the ongoing riots
Bright new start for UK? Doesn’t feel like it

@taxguru "Did you deliberately miss my point that libraries in our county were only closed in Tory voting towns and villages?"

I didn't miss that point. I could it hard to believe without evidence- but I didn't t miss it....

I expect he does need a holiday, however the Telegraph has reported this morning that he’s not having one.

He chaired COBRA from a sun lounger?

Starmer and the Labour party in general hate the working classes:

1 - The working class voted 52% for Brexit, SKS does his best to overturn it as that majority isn't enough in his opinion. Meanwhile he has no such issue with being PM after only 24% voted for him. Hypocrite!
2 - The working classes sick of illegal immigrants getting 4 star hotels and brand new houses that they themselves could never afford. Starmer cancels Rwanda, gives amnesty to those already here and says he'll "talk to Macron" to smash the gangs. Macron says he's not interested and the gangs will keep popping up. SKS has no plan.
3 - Endless U turns before and since the election.
4 - Taking winter fuel payments off the elderly who suffer from the cold more than any other group.
5 - The working class suffer from crime disproportionately more than other groups... So Starmer to let 10,000 criminal out early in to these same communities.

He's only been in power a month and his relentless attack on the working class has only just begun. I see their supporters in this thread are busy justifying all these things. Sad people.

Agree; our young people need more support across schooling, mental health, youth services etc. Resources for them have been massively reduced; SEND system is a disaster and many are not engaging with schooling anymore. Its horrendous and I speak from experience when my disabled kids were forced out of school. Our local college is under immense pressure and it is tragic to hear how young people talk about themselves and the hopelessness they feel for the future. I have a colleague who used to work in the prison system; many have low education and unidentified SEND and its estimated that about 25-30% have ADHD. Evidence backs this up.

"The working class suffer from crime disproportionately more than other groups... So Starmer to let 10,000 criminal out early in to these same communities."

Because the prisons were at capacity - the Conservatives lengthened sentences without building new prisons to manage the impact.

The Conservatives were warned for years by those in the prison & justice service.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/what-is-the-government-doing-to-reduce-pressure-on-prison-capacity/

Without early release the justice system would grind to a halt.

It's the result of a failure to plan.

X Factor? He’s running a country, not participating in a bloody reality show.

The French tried to have information about who people were in the 1930s, I am not sure that worked out so well in the end.

On your point two, in the interests of factual accuracy since illegal migrants have no recourse to public funds, they must be paying for the 4 star hotels and new houses for themselves, bringing money into the UK economy.

Easter what numbers? The number of immigrants that rise from 200k to 700k under Tory Britain? Those numbers? I'm guessing they are Starmers fault.

Or the rise in asylum seekers world wide that caused us to have an equal rise? Is that Starmers fault?

I don't even blame the Tory's for that - but I blame them for their slogans and performative Rwandan (recirpricol arrangement) plans for stoking hate.

We don't take a disproportionate amount of asylum seekers.

But you know this. You can't answer any challenge. You just reply with a. Uk we of words string together in a sentence to get a response.

Assuming you mean me you are not really challenging and no idea what last paragraph refers to

I have said and will always think the other country I know well is benefiting from a different approach.

I think over the next five years we’ll see more divergence between here and Aus in terms of calm citizens and lack of disorder. Also they will never vote out their border policy, because even Labor there know it would be mad to run on that.

From Aus perspective this approach that leads to disorder and rioting looks like a poor political choice and an odd one

I think smash the gangs is going to be more problematic over time due to sheer numbers of potential traffickers and demand

What are you actually challenging? It sounds a bit like resort to insult over that

It's a worldwide thing, which is actually more worrying than a UK only fall- historically, worldwide financial crashes don't usually end well. Hopefully, the US markets will stabilize.

If you have your funding cut by a Tory government, it sort of makes sense to make the cuts in Tory areas - those people voted for the cuts, so obviously won’t mind then, surely?
If that even happened, obviously.

Such tender feelings in so many of these people, when challenge or request for information instantly becomes an insult. Bewildering.

Good news for me then under a Labour Government, I live in a Tory area.

So you did vote for more austerity then? And think it’s fine?
Like I said though, I don’t believe it happened. However, we did have Sunak recorded saying he was redirecting funds from poor areas to rich ones…

Labour voters have always been a sensitive little group.

Request for what?

They do get angry but I don’t see much challenge

Not so little, is it?

Afraid not. The 'o you've hurt my feelings, how rude' bunch hang out on the other side along with the 'I'm a patriot' lot. It's a variation on patriotism being the last refuge of a scoundrel. An epithet well deserved.

I vote Lib Dem in my area, our local councillor is very good and sorts out loads of stuff. Although we now have a new Conservative local councillor who seems to want to be pro-active so we shall see.

I think he’s doing rather well so far, like the stuff on renewables and means testing heating payments. Glad I voted for him

This is in your head alone and odd

But still no ‘challenge’

Once again, WFA payments are not means tested. Millions of pensioners who are just above the cut off point for pension credit won't get any help and will struggle to keep warm this winter. Are you glad you voted for this?

The cut off point for WFA needs to be higher.