Why are majority of the riots in northern towns?

[PhoebeMcPeePee]

DH & I were watching the riots on the news this morning like most people absolutely horrified.

He's from one of the northern towns affected although we live in the south and started discussing why these riots now (and historically) tend to be more focused on northern towns but didn't really come up with any one thing. Any thoughts on this?

So what about YOU? When was the last time YOU went to Leeds. Not your colleague.

I think Leeds would like you to visit. I'm sure MN can give you some recommendations to try out.

I know a LOT of people who moved up from London to the North West. I live in a hotspot for it. They don't miss London. London is nice for a visit, but hell no thanks.

You haven't a clue.

I think Leeds would like you to visit. I'm sure MN can give you some recommendations to try out.

I am not so sure Leeds does to be honest

The chances of civil unrest rises significantly when the unemployment rate in men under 30 goes above 20%

It doesn't matter where in the world or what the political system is.

The same is true across the world and throughout history.

These aren’t protestors - these are thugs and vandals and should be referred to as such.

People saying that the 2011 riots were in London - those riots were largely made up of POC, disenfranchised black men and started out due to police brutality, which is a really different demographic to these riots, and I think why there is less southern riots - I've only heard of Southend, a very white town. I can only speak for London, which is historically hugely labour rather than something like reform. I don't think reform supporters cause the riots but the root causes - poverty, segregation, inter generation trauma from substance abuse has lead people to end up voting or fighting with the far right - and reform is a far right political party.

Very few. There is open anti jewish sentiment at too many palestinian protests.

Fair enough😏

@Hoppinggreen

Proper Northerners don't use butchers, most go out poaching in the Dales and the rest just eat roadkill. They all have Greggs on Sundays.

At least that's what everyone in Roundhay does. They're all buying Teslas because it's easier to hit animals in an electric car.

He hasn’t though, he has spoken to condemn the violence but you carry on blaming Reform for this 🤷‍♀️

The government treats the north like they are so far removed from the south so there’s a lot of poverty and deprivation.

Also the incident on Monday happened in a northern town.

😂

Re. social housing. Ive seen social housing tenants being told on here that social housing is "free" by middle class MNers

Well the racists have taken that and run with it and are castigating immigrants for getting "free" social housing. Then the middle classes all of a sudden say its not "free"

So which is it

Attacking the Holiday Inn in Rotherham, where asylum seekers are lodged - they must have been absolutely terrified.

you lot buying all the housing in the good catchment areas

Not wishing to derail the thread, but my god, I remember hot desking in the recruitment department once, and hearing colleagues take the piss out of an applicant. When one of them commented that applicant had been to a private school in Yorkshire, another replied "not a very good private school, then." It still boils my piss nearly twenty years later (I can't believe I kept my mouth shut to be honest).

How would you like for asylum seekers to pay their own bills and housing when they’re not allowed to work or claim benefits?

Ah, yes, because racists don't exist in any other part of the UK 🙄

And tons of Israel flags at edl marches. No ones going to address that though

The North is a big area
There's a lot of poverty and deprivation I SOME places not all.

One of DH's university friends who lived in Tunbridge Wells and went to private school, refused to ever visit us 'even if you lived on a secure gated estate'.

He was being deadly serious.

I live in a nice part of the NW.

And yet the right wingers who will lament the lot of the white working class boy will laugh in your face if you argue that, say, black Americans are on average poorer due to institutionalised racism. The cognitive dissonance of parts of the right never ceases to amaze me.

Agree - from a v similar background myself.
I’m from a Northern city and no way will I be returning - except under duress.
Poverty and lack of opportunity has a part to play for sure - as does an appalling lack of housing but so does narrow mindedness, ignorance, drugs, drink and low IQ.
In many cases people don’t want the opportunities-, they wont work in school and disrupt it for others or are awful to those that want to make something of themselves.

Lies about levelling up, even the fact that we need to be levelled up in the first place.
Years of underinvestment and austerity which hit parts of the north harder (not Rishi’s affluent constituency by the way 😂).
Some of the worst schools and teachers who aren’t as good as they could be in helping to raise aspirations. Multi generational poverty and reliance on benefits. Many want to work btw but competition for even NMW jobs is fierce and often up against migrants.
Absolutely shite job prospects even with a decent degree.
Some towns have seen huge demographic changes in populations as migrants and asylum seekers head to cheaper areas. This breeds resentment.
If southerners move here it’s not to places like Rochdale, Oldham or Burnley is it ?

EDL are defunct so which marches are you referring to?