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Southport - reporting restrictions

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mids2019 · 31/07/2024 15:49

So the attacker in Southport was a child (17) so will be not be reported on due to reporting restrictions. Due to proximity of the alleged attacked to adulthood and the severity of the crimes do you think in this case it is in the public interest to release at least some details of the alleged killer? Not releasing details fuels speculation that at a public level may not be helpful in my.opinion.

In addition I would think there may be a high chance the attacker had a severe mental illness so after the Nottingham attacks will the debate about personal responsibility for actions during psychosis be raised again?

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DuncinToffee · 02/08/2024 10:53

YL ran scared is now safely using twitter showing his support to the riots, the hero

newnamethanks · 02/08/2024 10:56

Yaxley Lennon lives in Spain? 😂😂😂 and they say his supporters are ignorant thugs? They are obviously evidence of the clarity of thought they so frequently display. Some people can't be saved from themselves.

Inlaw · 02/08/2024 20:15

JetLagHell · 02/08/2024 10:21

MH issues, autism, performing arts.
It’s getting more bizarre by the minute.

Perhaps he’s just an awful human being full of misdirected hatred.

I’ve 3 nephews age 40+ with children of all ages living streets away from this area. It’s a really tight community. People know of this person, his family, what they got up to at school and that the police have been onto him a few times. Also, sorry to say, but people in some services, talk.

There is lots of talk about him. They are all saying the same thing. No one has mentioned MH once.

This is interesting thank you.

I have been reading on the court the other day and the pictures of him hiding his face.

Im not a doctor so can’t be 100%, but as I said I have had psychosis, and sadly in the last day or so have seen a friend of a friend having a psychotic break on Facebook live. It’s reminded me of the sheer conviction someone with psychosis has in their beliefs and the frantic panic they have when confronted with actual reality in contrast. I find it very hard to believe he would be in full blown psychosis yet so composed as to sit calmly in silence, cover their face and not speak at all. I’m 99% sure this has nothing to do with psychosis.

JetLagHell · 02/08/2024 20:30

I’m saddened that people are so quick to jump to MH issues for heinous acts. It does those with real MH issues no favours. I would imagine it distresses them greatly.

DottedSquare · 02/08/2024 21:01

JetLagHell · 02/08/2024 10:21

MH issues, autism, performing arts.
It’s getting more bizarre by the minute.

Perhaps he’s just an awful human being full of misdirected hatred.

I’ve 3 nephews age 40+ with children of all ages living streets away from this area. It’s a really tight community. People know of this person, his family, what they got up to at school and that the police have been onto him a few times. Also, sorry to say, but people in some services, talk.

There is lots of talk about him. They are all saying the same thing. No one has mentioned MH once.

What are they saying? Can you hint or dm me?

DottedSquare · 02/08/2024 21:10

It is odd, the fact that he killed at a dance and performance venue and was into acting and performance himself. I won't speculate. But this being a small community, he may well have known some at the venue. He sounds pretty confident in the Dr Who video, also quite a privilege to be casted for it.

Ponkpinkpink15 · 02/08/2024 21:14

Cattenberg · 31/07/2024 16:25

The mother of Elsie Dot Stancombe has asked for the violence in Southport to stop.

@Cattenberg
but these rioting thugs don't care about what she wants or about the children, they just want to cause mayhem. They're using this tragedy as an excuse, that's all. Bastards.

He's 17, maybe has MH problems, it would seem likely. His family should have protection & the police should not have to release his name/details to calm the baying mob, but he's in custody & if releasing his details will calm down the rioting, maybe they should?!

id prefer them to send the big vans out, round them all up & shove them in cells. Well it's not quite what I'd like them to do, but...

pointythings · 02/08/2024 21:14

@Inlaw I'm very sorry that you have had to deal with psychosis.

But your personal experience does not mean that the illness can't manifest in many different ways. Early on in my career I worked as the acting Mental Health Act administrator in my Trust. As such, I sat in on many MHA tribunals. The range of manifestations of people with psychosis was huge - and many were on the face of it cool, calm, collected and utterly rational, until you looked at what they were actually saying. However, once you accepted the premise of their delusional beliefs, what flowed on from that was logically argued and controlled.

At this stage nothing can be ruled out, and nothing can be ruled in.

Ponkpinkpink15 · 02/08/2024 21:15

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/08/2024 08:15

Yep, I agree. 100%

The first one to utter 'lessons learned' should be out in the cells with the rioters!!

Inlaw · 02/08/2024 22:07

pointythings · 02/08/2024 21:14

@Inlaw I'm very sorry that you have had to deal with psychosis.

But your personal experience does not mean that the illness can't manifest in many different ways. Early on in my career I worked as the acting Mental Health Act administrator in my Trust. As such, I sat in on many MHA tribunals. The range of manifestations of people with psychosis was huge - and many were on the face of it cool, calm, collected and utterly rational, until you looked at what they were actually saying. However, once you accepted the premise of their delusional beliefs, what flowed on from that was logically argued and controlled.

At this stage nothing can be ruled out, and nothing can be ruled in.

That’s interesting. Thank you for sharing. So it could be possible then.

bluewanda · 02/08/2024 22:24

The coward couldn’t even show his face in court. That shouldn’t be allowed.

absquatulize · 02/08/2024 22:26

bluewanda · 02/08/2024 22:24

The coward couldn’t even show his face in court. That shouldn’t be allowed.

I had heard that to, that Yaxley Lennon had skipped bail and migrated to Spain.

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