Southport - why do they keep saying a ‘Taylor Swift themed club’?

[SandrasNewDo]

It’s really bothering me.

Is it because
a) the murder of 2 children and attempted murder and severe injury of 9 others isn’t newsworthy enough without involving Taylor Swift’s name?

b) Taylor Swift needs to suffer some guilt by association in the way Ariana Grande did with the bombing at her concert?

What’s the need or relevance? If it had been a 80’s music dance class would they keep saying that? Why not just say summer dance club and then focus on the children and adults who were hurt or killed - I can’t even imagine the devastation their families and the whole community must be suffering.

Anyone?

He's a murder suspect. Please don't prejudice his trial. The worst possible outcome is for the trial to collapse because so many idiots declared him guilty online that the integrity of the jury couldn't be assured.

He's a murder suspect. Please don't prejudice his trial. The worst possible outcome is for the trial to collapse because so many idiots declared him guilty online that the integrity of the jury couldn't be assured.

Are you trying to provoke people? He's a killer several people have witnessed this. This is a MN thread not court of law. I you are trying to make a political point that's no better than those who exploit this for far right reasons. Have some respect.

As I said above incels despise young girls & women looking up to a powerful, female role model such as Taylor Swift & Ariana Grande.
It's very relevant that the Taylor themed angle is reported.

Whatever Taylor posted, you forgot to link to.

I’m the idiot? Wake up. Stop the defence of this maniac

Agree

If that's what you are worried about, ask MN to take the thread down. As long as it's running, we will call him what he is.

I'm stating the facts! We have a right to free speech.

Because it needs to hit home. We should all be reeling in the pain of it. It could be any of our girls! Taylor Swift represents the innocence of those babies, just having fun with their friends in the summer holidays.
It’s also a terror attack whichever way you look at it and he should pay, and hopefully will, with his life behind bars

He's a murder suspect until he's proven guilty. That's the law. The worst possible outcome is for the trial to collapse because so many idiots declared him guilty online that the integrity of the jury couldn't be assured.

I want him to have a trial that is by the book, perfectly carried out, every I dotted and T crossed, all procedures followed, watertight, so that there is no chance of the trial collapsing and no grounds for appeal.

What's with the copy paste posts? 🤔

I'm not defending him. I'm writing from the perspective of a former juror.

He’s a murderer. Sue me.

Seeing the same thing from different people is tedious.

It's not about defamation, although it could be if he's acquitted.

Your right to free expression (free speech is an American concept not found in our Human Rights Act) ends when it compromises due process.

And people will make another thread. This is now the third thread.

call me cynical, but keeping TS name associated with the horrendous crime allows the media to add her photo to the story

Call him a youth, under-18, minor… but the repeated use of the word “boy” by some posters sounds not only one-sided but thoroughly distasteful given that this individual has murdered children.

The rule of law is not "wishy washy liberalism". It's the most important British value I can think of.

Well I'd think there were enough witnesses to prove it was him, it may not even need to go to trial , he's not entered any pleas yet

What? Do you want this person to be acquitted and to walk away scot-free because his lawyers are able to prove that social media speculation made it impossible for him to have a fair trial?

The PP is merely pointing out that with statements as to his guilt or otherwise, or reams of endless speculation, this is what's being risked here.

It's not about defence of his actions, it's about ensuring he receives a fair trial, because a fair trial is what will ultimately result in a safe conviction; if, indeed, he is convicted. Anything else would be vulnerable to appeal at a later stage.

Please, consider what you write. Meantime I am reporting this thread.