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Southport - why do they keep saying a ‘Taylor Swift themed club’?

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SandrasNewDo · 30/07/2024 08:35

It’s really bothering me.

Is it because
a) the murder of 2 children and attempted murder and severe injury of 9 others isn’t newsworthy enough without involving Taylor Swift’s name?

b) Taylor Swift needs to suffer some guilt by association in the way Ariana Grande did with the bombing at her concert?

What’s the need or relevance? If it had been a 80’s music dance class would they keep saying that? Why not just say summer dance club and then focus on the children and adults who were hurt or killed - I can’t even imagine the devastation their families and the whole community must be suffering.

Anyone?

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MaidOfAle · 30/07/2024 12:08

crumblingschools · 30/07/2024 12:05

@MaidOfAle you keep going on about the law but I think you have posted some additional that isn’t officially out there

Have I? Link the post and I'll ask for it to be removed.

PleaseGoDontGoAgain · 30/07/2024 12:08

Sky just gave their ages 6, 7 and 9, and confirmed all girls, 8 were stabbed 5 still in a critical condition.

CurlewKate · 30/07/2024 12:09

@dottiehens "True but how many more innocent children and people have to die before something is done. This is getting worse and worse."

What do you think should be done?
What is getting worse and worst?

spikeandbuffy · 30/07/2024 12:09

Why are people so puzzled/disbelieving that it could be a white British male that's committed an act of violence? It's not unheard of(!)
It's like people can be "well it would never be my son/friend because he's from here"

Inlaw · 30/07/2024 12:09

Rosscameasdoody · 30/07/2024 12:07

It says they are a minor - until they attain adult age at 18. And as such they are entitled to anonymity. How many different ways would you like this explained to you ?

You have not read a word I have written. I have said he’s a minor. But he’s not a child or a boy. He’s killed actual children. So the distinction to me is important.

And no where have I named him. Because he hasn’t been named! I’m not a psychic for crying out loud.

CurlewKate · 30/07/2024 12:10

@Sassenach85 "Women, mothers - need to stand up together very soon for our children’s sakes."
In what way?

explainthistomeplease · 30/07/2024 12:10

Losing it with the BBC, who are still saying 'children'. It's girls isn't it? And as for searching for a motive, I think if we know it's girls we know the motive...

BirthdayRainbow · 30/07/2024 12:11

I was just reading on line what happened and got very tearful. Now it has been announced that a third girl has died aged just 9. Just heartbreaking.

DuncinToffee · 30/07/2024 12:14

https://x.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1818225509387448763

Police are monitoring a possible far-right rally in Southport this evening after fake news spread on social media that the 17-year-old unnamed suspect was a Muslim asylum seeker. An outlet spread the false information, which has inflamed community tensions.

PleaseGoDontGoAgain · 30/07/2024 12:15

Sky news saying police have confirmed the name being shared on Twitter is NOT correct.
What a massive surprise that isn't.

BirthdayRainbow · 30/07/2024 12:15

Given the "alleged" (for legality sake) attacker is 17 does that have any bearing on how you all feel than if he had been 35 for instance.

Longma · 30/07/2024 12:15

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Oldseagull · 30/07/2024 12:15

Brianna Ghey's killers were 16 at the time, and named.

Why is this animal exempt?

captureitrememberit · 30/07/2024 12:16

Oldseagull · 30/07/2024 12:15

Brianna Ghey's killers were 16 at the time, and named.

Why is this animal exempt?

They weren't named straight away after the attack. They were named a year later during the trial when the judge decided they should be. It's very likely that will also happen when this case goes to trial.

CwmYoy · 30/07/2024 12:17

Oldseagull · 30/07/2024 12:15

Brianna Ghey's killers were 16 at the time, and named.

Why is this animal exempt?

They weren't named until they were convicted and only then at the discresion of the judge.

PleaseGoDontGoAgain · 30/07/2024 12:17

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Sky is happily confirming they are all girls as the police confirmed it about ten minutes ago, so are other outlets.
It would appear that ONLY the beeb isn't saying it yet.

Longma · 30/07/2024 12:17

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Machiavellian · 30/07/2024 12:17

Reading this is disgusting. None of us are experts. None of us know what's actually happening. All this speculation and fact lobbing is bullshit and needs to stop.

Longma · 30/07/2024 12:17

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Another2Cats · 30/07/2024 12:18

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 30/07/2024 08:55

As others have said, because it highlights it was an event aimed at little girls.

The attacker will have been expecting a room of predominantly female children. This wasn’t an exam grade dance class or something for those doing dance as an art form, it was little girls having fun in the holidays.

several have also mentioned the centre runs antenatal and post natal classes throughout term time, this is a very female focused environment. He picked this place to attack.

Precisely this. He didn't attack eg a boxing club or a martial arts club where there are more likely to be adult males present.

PleaseGoDontGoAgain · 30/07/2024 12:18

We don't know who the two critical adults are. No information at all about them.

Sassenach85 · 30/07/2024 12:19

CurlewKate · 30/07/2024 12:10

@Sassenach85 "Women, mothers - need to stand up together very soon for our children’s sakes."
In what way?

I don’t know. I don’t have a clue. But this is what we do. We feel this rage and have no productive way to channel it and so it dissipates until the next horror.

the bickering on this thread is ridiculous

Longma · 30/07/2024 12:19

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dottiehens · 30/07/2024 12:19

CurlewKate · 30/07/2024 12:09

@dottiehens "True but how many more innocent children and people have to die before something is done. This is getting worse and worse."

What do you think should be done?
What is getting worse and worst?

What should be done is for the government to start putting laws in place. Do not you think murders are on the up? Unless they did not report it before because every day there are horrific murders committed all over the country. It is always known to police with MH problems. Why? Or should be accept this as the new normal? Crime also on the up? People disappearing. So you think nothing can be done. This country was safe and now features like a third world country for crime and murders. We also a small one so it should not be that hard, I refuse to believe nothing can be done.

oldmanandtheangel · 30/07/2024 12:20

It IS relevant..he was certainly triggered by an advert or poster....an attack on young females like the Manchester bombings

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