Southport - why do they keep saying a ‘Taylor Swift themed club’?

[SandrasNewDo]

It’s really bothering me.

Is it because
a) the murder of 2 children and attempted murder and severe injury of 9 others isn’t newsworthy enough without involving Taylor Swift’s name?

b) Taylor Swift needs to suffer some guilt by association in the way Ariana Grande did with the bombing at her concert?

What’s the need or relevance? If it had been a 80’s music dance class would they keep saying that? Why not just say summer dance club and then focus on the children and adults who were hurt or killed - I can’t even imagine the devastation their families and the whole community must be suffering.

Anyone?

This. Myself and a couple of posters have said this a few times now and certain posters are just carrying on regardless. I expect the thread to be taken down any second to be honest.

Well because sadly that’s where they were, it was quite a specificity named event.

This is exactly what I'm worried about. Protests intimidate innocent people and do nothing to help the victims.

The facts that the police are publicly conveying:

The suspect is 17 years old.

He is originally from Cardiff (a point delivered in a pointedly barbed tone by the Chief Constable of Merseyside Police at her press conference).

This is not, at present, being treated as terrorism.

The divisive social media speculation really isn't helpful.

Protests against, or for, what exactly?

The Politicians' Fallacy: I must do something. <Does completely stupid thing that makes situation worse.> There, I did something.

Sometimes, it's best to do nothing. This is one of those times.

What is amazing is how the police-in the same way they did a few days ago when someone tried to cut a soldier's head off-immediately say it is not terror related.

The next breath, they say they don't what the motive is so how on earth can they dismiss one possible motive out of hand, It may not be terror related but by saying so confidently that it is not terror related, then that implies they know what the motive is.

If they don't know what the motive is , then just a few hours after the attack they shouldn't be dismissing any motive.

@ErrolTheDragon far right rally

Whilst technically this guys a ‘minor’ in eyes of the law. I am also in the camp that won’t call him a boy. He’s 17. He’s a teenager if you going to be generous, young man if you’re going to be accurate.

Anyone who’s calling him a child is crazy. Under 16 is child/boy.

And if everyone genuinely thinks 16/17yos are children then why on earth are they allowed in the army/ to work/ to have consensual sex/ to vote if Starmer has his way.

Absolutely agree, there is no guarantee he is actually 17...

I'm disgusted by some media outlets saying two children died... They were murdered.
In fairness most mainstream media said they were killed but a certain few outlets have said the children died which weakens what actually happened.

Women, mothers - need to stand up together very soon for our children’s sakes. We have too much to fear in this world and I’m afraid for my young children growing up in this world. I don’t know how - I just feel such deep pain for those involved in this and all atrocities to women and children.

Then write to your MP to demand a change in the law.

Whilst the law grants the suspect anonymity, obey and accept that.

What??

Really? You're embarrassing with a foul mouth to boot. I'm cringing for you.

Protests against the murders of innocent civilians. When are the government going to take responsibility? The murderer in Southport was already on the radar of multiple services.. Enough is enough. This can not happen again. This summer has been horrific.

Well in less than twelve months it will be legal to name him. Unless he goes to trial before that and the judge allows his name to be revealed.

So sorry about this and all other atrocities. Sympathy to the bereaved parents, kudos to all who tried to prevent further devastation (the dance teachers etc.), the emergency services, the police and anyone I've forgotten.

The actual police said he is 17, and being born in Cardiff there are British records of his birth.

It still doesn’t change the fact that he’s a minor so entitled to anonymity for the present. He’s being questioned. No charges have yet been brought. Why do you think he should be treated any differently to any other minor in his position ? The law dictates that until you are 18 you are a minor. So as much as you dislike it, that law applies to everyone, regardless of the crime of which they are suspected. If we start playing around with that dictated by public opinion we’re on the slippery slope to mob rule.

Where in law says that a 17yo is a child. It doesn’t. Because we have laws against child labour and child soldiers in this country.

💯.

@MaidOfAle you keep going on about the law but I think you have posted some additional that isn’t officially out there

@Creepingivy there is nothing to say that's true
It was linked to the fake name that was given out

A third child just confirmed dead by Sky News

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It says they are a minor - until they attain adult age at 18. And as such they are entitled to anonymity. How many different ways would you like this explained to you ?