So why do people like trump??

[Bucees]

I can clearly see why people don't like trump but why on earth do people actually like him?

Can't even work it out?

Because of the moral superiority of those that dislike him.

This righteousness of the left is nauseating, the desire to paint Trump supporters as idiots fuels the desire to vote for him.

Maybe look at the reasons why people are so unhappy that they are willing to vote for Trump rather than post with the false incomprehension.

I'm politically homeless (and not American so it wouldn't matter) so no Trump supporters but these endless posts are like the Brexit posts from Remainers (of which I am one, I just don't agree with the arrogance that went with it?

As someone who loathes him - absolutely hates him -

He's quite funny, in a non-professional way (a few of the stupid things he said and were criticised for were obviously clumsy jokes. Not many of them). And he's been on the telly and in movies. And he's got a glamorous younger wife, men think he's sexually successful. Very like what people like about B. Johnson.

A lot of people seem to like the fact that he's inherited a lot of money - sorry, that he's a 'successful businessman'.

They are idiots though. No need to paint them as such. They just are!

I wonder how long he will milk it, after been shot at.

Because he appeals to their prejudices. Sadly.

I don't know @Bucees I just don't get it. And I am not the 'self righteous left!' (as a pp suggested... (More centric.) SO many people seem to support him in America, and it's terrifying. Makes me so grateful I don't live there, because it looks like he may be President for a 5 year term again soon! Thank God he can't do any more terms though eh?!

Hopefully Michelle Obama or Kamala Harris runs for president for the democrats, and whips his ass. Silly clown will probably call it a fix again!

Christ if I know. I live in the US, in the Midwest. I want to tell every person with a Trump bumper sticker that he wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. People just seem to continuously vote against their best interest here.

And this is exactly what entrenches people in their view point.

I remember driving through Kansas in 2016 and it really clicking why. It is very working class vs middle/upper class. The democrats are very focused on 'people issues'. Social issues. The people in red states don't really have that privilege, they're worried about practical issues that impact them and their families in their day to day lives.

They're worried about tax because how do they run their farm if it gets to high? What jobs do they if fracking gets banned and it's the only industry in the area? The local school is only open 3-4 days a week because there isn't enough money to hire teachers, but the government is requiring what little money there is be diverted to social education rather than recruitment. Access to internet connection is poor. The local supermarket only gets delivery once every 3 weeks. The whole town is on well water that's contaminated by led. Fentynal is killing their youth in huge numbers.

They have all these very real issues of poverty that keep getting substantially worse, so it feels like a slap in the face when they see things like immigration or lgbtq+ held up as a number one issue.

But Donald Trump? He takes the time to speak to them on their level.

I don't like him, but when he speaks, it is actually entertaining.

Its the usual playbook. Whip up people's anger and hatred and blame everything on minority groups and foreigners.

No one could understand why the sensible, cultured Germans wanted to vote for Hitler in the 1930s either given that he was clearly a frothing madman but lots of them did.

Well that's a silly reason to vote for someone. It's teenage logic. Isn't it more likely they have bought all the lies he tells about the election having been stolen?

I think he has similar skills to a conman or confidence trickster.

I think it's a bit of the emperors new clothes too, like a pride thing? Becuse he is so negative about any "others" ie people who r against him, ppl want to make sure they r liked by him/in the "it" crowd.
Plus he's good at saying what he's against but when saying what he's for he keeps it very vague, so everyone can agree on it. Whereas if he were more specific ie HOW he would make America great again, then it open up more debate/questioning if it's possible in xyz way. By keeping it vague ppl can unite because, hey, if i were an American I would want to be great, everyone does.

It's really sad to watch from a distance but almost easier to see than people closer to home.

@PhillipMontyTomato you took the words right out of my mouth.

Same reason people like Farage I think. He’s a confidence man, a trickster, a grifter call it what you will. He’s a member of the elite who has managed to convince people he is just like them. Trump’s whole shtick is ridiculous - the ‘they’re after you so they’re coming for me’ as if he’s a protector instead of just out for himself.

Here are a few reasons:

• His "America First" principles and assertion of all nations to determine their own futures.
• He brokered a deal normalising relations between Israel and the UAE.
• His reduction of US troops' presence overseas.
• Commitment to curbing migration, shifting the visa lottery to a merit based system.
• Reducing the prices of drugs in the US and importing cheaper drugs from abroads to afford people discounts.
• He's a strong advocate of law enforcement.
• He signed an executive order introducing several police reforms, offering federal grants for improved practices, including the creation of a database to trace abuses by officers. He advocated for the prohibition of controversial chokehold methods for restraining suspects.
• He has advocated for removing employment barriers for ex-offenders.
• He's in favour of low taxes and low State interference in people's lives and in business.
• He rolled back federal regulations on businesses, enacted corporate and income tax cuts and signed executive orders supporting preferences for domestic-made products.
• He sought to end reliance on China and protect US manufacturing. He's one of the only American leaders to have taken a very hard-line stance on China and protect American manufacturers from foreign competition. He renegotiated past trade details that were unfair to the US.
• He succeeded in reversing the US trade deficit during his presidency, the first time in 6 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-53828147

Are we gonna get this question every day or week until November now. God help us.

Interesting that almost everyone in these anti-Trump threads never mention specific policies. It's all (mostly) to do with his personality.

I for one wouldn't vote for him because of his stance on Ukraine. But I can 100% understand why people who are for "policies not personality" would support him.

You have to understand Americans and American history to understand why. Americans, by and large are very polarised politically - you're either one or the other, to the point it even influences where you live. A lot of Americans never leave America so their only window into the outside world is what Fox or CNN tell them. They don't really experience how it could be. Of course this isn't the case for everyone, but the more progressive states seem to be those that are international hubs that bring in other influences.

They're terrified about someone coming to take it all away and Trump prays on that brilliantly. Listen to any of his speeches, you can pick out the buzz words. The immigrants are coming for you, the women are getting too big for their boots, Europe needs to be put in its place, I'm a dictator, I took a bullet for democracy which is under threat from all of the above. They're coming to take everything that's yours and you need to fight so they don't.

We see America as being on a level playing field with Europe but you forget that when Europe had decided to stop warring and settle down, they were just getting started. A lot of groups, factions and religions whose views were no longer being tolerated in Europe moved to the new world to be free to live their lives the way they wanted. It's not that many generations ago that they were having it all taken away from them and not enough time has passed to make them complacent about that yet. Think about how things were here about 150/200 years ago and it will start to make a bit more sense.

I'm not saying we're perfect in any way but half my family live in the US so it's been interesting to see the Trump situation develop.

I think there are many reasons

Putting America and Americans first

Tapping into the anger people feel at being left behind/ignored and tapping it to racist anger

Hard line on crime

A promise that the American Dream can still be achieved

He is a master confidence trickster, he also is entertaining a big personality he is on the TV you are listening to love him or to loath him either way ot allows him time to get his point across before you switch off and that is essential part of him winning the undecided voters

I also agree that the left (not just in the US it has played out here and the rest of Europe) losing a connection with their core voters the working class that have felt left behind and their reliance on urban mc voters has allowed right wing populism to thrive. And well the sneering if it still can’t be recognised by some that it’s an issue when time and time again many have said we are ignored and not listen to them people really haven’t been paying attention

Probably because he is against funding of wars and less corrupt.

Less corrupt than whom?

That list of policies is pretty compelling I’ll admit. I had no idea.

• He's a strong advocate of law enforcement.

You're having a laugh. He's a strong advocate of law breaking

B/c they are a little bit mad..