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Joe Biden is out - God bless him

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Mommybunny · 21/07/2024 18:56

Put the country before himself - yes, finally, but he’s done it.

Please God let my country be ok.

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JudgeJ · 21/07/2024 19:38

garlicandsapphires · 21/07/2024 19:09

Michelle O will never stand. She’s said so repeatedly

I think it wiil be a long time before America elects a woman as President though they're hardly spoiled for choice.
Boris Johnson was born in the USA....................................!

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/07/2024 19:38

She been very quiet for 4 years, unless we in the UK just don't hear about her.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2024 19:38

BMW6 · 21/07/2024 19:16

Sorry but I really can't see America having a female president in the next 30+ years.

I can't see them electing Kamala Harris either since her ratings are even worse than Biden's, but incredibly that's who he's backing to replace him Hmm

I suppose it's something that he at least got her name right, but am getting pretty sick already of the blather about him "putting his country first" in going.
If that was his real intention he'd never have run again in the first place

Basically the Democrats have made a complete pig's ear of this, and some of their supporters will never forgive them - especially if Trump's elected

Outliers · 21/07/2024 19:38

Good riddance

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/07/2024 19:38

I would have had more respect for him if he had been content with being a one term President. His pride has caused the current predicament the Democrats find themselves in.

Michelle Obama has repeatedly made it very clear she has no wish to be president. Unlike Farage she is a person of her word.

Crosc · 21/07/2024 19:39

Crosc · 21/07/2024 19:34

We should refrain from this sort of rhetoric. Brain dead is dehumanising. Jo Cox’s death and Trump’s assassination serve as warning when you other those with opposing views. MAGA supporters are disenfranchised- they have concerns which need to be heard

Attempted assassination*

Aussieland · 21/07/2024 19:39

Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve - And never was! He only attained the position of President by lies, Fake News, and not leaving his Basement. All those around him, including his Doctor and the Media, knew that he wasn’t capable of being President, and he wasn’t - And now, look what he’s done to our Country, with millions of people coming across our Border, totally unchecked and unvetted, many from prisons, mental institutions, and record numbers of terrorists. We will suffer greatly because of his presidency, but we will remedy the damage he has done very quickly. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This seems so unclassy from Trump. What is wrong with him?

Clafoutie · 21/07/2024 19:39

Crosc · 21/07/2024 19:26

Agreed. She is very disliked.

Sadly agree. I understand she is thought to be fairly weak as a politician with poor debating skills and is very unpopular with voters. I’m desperately hoping this isn’t true and that, if she gets the nomination, she’ll prove them wrong. But I fear the worse 😔

Piggywaspushed · 21/07/2024 19:40

Crosc · 21/07/2024 19:34

We should refrain from this sort of rhetoric. Brain dead is dehumanising. Jo Cox’s death and Trump’s assassination serve as warning when you other those with opposing views. MAGA supporters are disenfranchised- they have concerns which need to be heard

Trump was assassinated??

anyolddinosaur · 21/07/2024 19:40

Mark Kelly has been mentioned as a possible. I had never heard of him but ex astronaut so presumably better known in America and also ex Navy captain - would he be a good option?

Trump's age can now be used against him. Personally I'd say age limit should be 80 by the end of the 4 year term.

samarrange · 21/07/2024 19:41

The campaign is not about Harris (or Biden, or anyone else) vs Trump. Almost nobody is thinking "Should I vote for Trump or not?". Trump's vote has been locked in since 2020.

The point is to get the large numbers of Americans who either rarely vote, or who sometimes vote but couldn't bring themselves to vote for an even older white guy than Trump, to turn out and vote against Trump.

Given that, Harris has some advantages. She is a woman (yes yes, she mentioned her pronouns that time on stage, we'll have to get over that), she is not white, and she is a competent speaker. In fact her professional background is quite similar to Keir Starmer's, as she was the equivalent of the DPP in California. I don't know if further head-to-head debates are planned, but Harris will take Trump to the cleaners if they happen.

For what it's worth, I don't think Harris would be a particularly good President. But that's not the choice right now. The choice is between a moderately competent individual who will appoint a selection of reasonably qualified advisers, versus a narcissistic psychopath who will jeopardise the freedom of the whole of Europe, on top of the damage that he will do to democracy in the US.

It's going to be difficult, but without Biden it's at least possible. The Democratic Party also needs to have competent (meaning, as a minimum, able to get people's names right) national leadership in place to oppose what Trump and co may try to put in place.

AInightingale · 21/07/2024 19:42

Very ignorant of the American political process. So what exactly happens between now and November?

Sloejelly · 21/07/2024 19:42

Trump may be awful but he is not stupid. You don’t get to be president unless you have a lot of political savvy. Yes his statements are simply bombastic but he knows they attract a lot of support. He makes a significant portion of the American electorate, who feel ignored by the democrats, feel heard. He won beat other republican contenders.

HermioneWeasley · 21/07/2024 19:42

Biden is NOT a good man. Have you all forgotten the creepy handling and sniffing of young girls (and that’s what he was doing in public)? That when he was VP the security services had to stop assigning female agents to work with him because he always took his clothes off in front of them? That he has put the democrats in a position where they can’t win against Trump because he was clinging to power, probably so he could pardon his criminal son?

Butwhybecause · 21/07/2024 19:42

Thank goodness at last!
But will the Democrats find another candidate in time? I'm really not sure that Kamala Harris has what it takes to be President.

Surely in such a large country and out of such a large population there is someone with the intelligence and the right personality (charisma?) to take on this task?

circular2478 · 21/07/2024 19:43

It was right that Biden stepped down. It was painful to watch him. Trump was already a shoe in with Biden as his competition.

I don't know enough about Harris, but I cant see a woman and a mixed race one being voted as president either.

Sloejelly · 21/07/2024 19:43

AInightingale · 21/07/2024 19:42

Very ignorant of the American political process. So what exactly happens between now and November?

The democrats need to choose a nominee. Harris is not that, yet.

Pikapikapikachu11 · 21/07/2024 19:43

HermioneWeasley · 21/07/2024 19:42

Biden is NOT a good man. Have you all forgotten the creepy handling and sniffing of young girls (and that’s what he was doing in public)? That when he was VP the security services had to stop assigning female agents to work with him because he always took his clothes off in front of them? That he has put the democrats in a position where they can’t win against Trump because he was clinging to power, probably so he could pardon his criminal son?

And TRUMP IS a good person? 👍

HermioneWeasley · 21/07/2024 19:44

@samarrange i don’t believe the floating voters will be won over by Harris.

they need to get a centrist white straight man. That’s their only hope.

Viviennemary · 21/07/2024 19:44

MrsLeonFarrell · 21/07/2024 19:38

I would have had more respect for him if he had been content with being a one term President. His pride has caused the current predicament the Democrats find themselves in.

Michelle Obama has repeatedly made it very clear she has no wish to be president. Unlike Farage she is a person of her word.

Totally agree. His refusal to stand down before now will probably cost them the election.

Crosc · 21/07/2024 19:44

Piggywaspushed · 21/07/2024 19:40

Trump was assassinated??

Apologies. Corrected my self at 19:39

Butwhybecause · 21/07/2024 19:44

Trump may be awful but he is not stupid

He does talk a lot of tosh, though, sloejelly!

FinalCeleryScheme · 21/07/2024 19:44

HermioneWeasley · 21/07/2024 19:42

Biden is NOT a good man. Have you all forgotten the creepy handling and sniffing of young girls (and that’s what he was doing in public)? That when he was VP the security services had to stop assigning female agents to work with him because he always took his clothes off in front of them? That he has put the democrats in a position where they can’t win against Trump because he was clinging to power, probably so he could pardon his criminal son?

Really? Is that true about undressing in front of female agents? And the young girls?

Is this well documented?

Mommybunny · 21/07/2024 19:44

samarrange · 21/07/2024 19:41

The campaign is not about Harris (or Biden, or anyone else) vs Trump. Almost nobody is thinking "Should I vote for Trump or not?". Trump's vote has been locked in since 2020.

The point is to get the large numbers of Americans who either rarely vote, or who sometimes vote but couldn't bring themselves to vote for an even older white guy than Trump, to turn out and vote against Trump.

Given that, Harris has some advantages. She is a woman (yes yes, she mentioned her pronouns that time on stage, we'll have to get over that), she is not white, and she is a competent speaker. In fact her professional background is quite similar to Keir Starmer's, as she was the equivalent of the DPP in California. I don't know if further head-to-head debates are planned, but Harris will take Trump to the cleaners if they happen.

For what it's worth, I don't think Harris would be a particularly good President. But that's not the choice right now. The choice is between a moderately competent individual who will appoint a selection of reasonably qualified advisers, versus a narcissistic psychopath who will jeopardise the freedom of the whole of Europe, on top of the damage that he will do to democracy in the US.

It's going to be difficult, but without Biden it's at least possible. The Democratic Party also needs to have competent (meaning, as a minimum, able to get people's names right) national leadership in place to oppose what Trump and co may try to put in place.

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You’re absolutely right - I’ve noticed for years that Kamala Harris’ career was very similar to Keir Starmer’s - and in another random coincidence they both have Jewish spouses. Please let her outcome mirror his! 🤞

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SureJanOK · 21/07/2024 19:44

He'll be dead in 6-12 months.
It was becoming an utter farce.