Joe Biden is out - God bless him

[Mommybunny]

Put the country before himself - yes, finally, but he’s done it.

Please God let my country be ok.

Please share how why think national security has improved under Biden.

Does it explain why there has never been any serious attempt at creating federal legislation? The title and description I’ve read don’t indicate that it does.

I’ve watched this for decades. This is nonsense that the only the most idealistic women will buy:

“After so many decades of taking Roe for granted, supporters of abortion rights had grown dangerously complacent and disorganized in ways that made them slow to appreciate the severity of the threat.”

It was never taken for granted except by fools. My mother told me decades ago, before I was even of child bearing age, that it was simply a way to scare women into voting a certain way, and those that pretend to care about women never bothered to clear it because it was it was useful in getting votes. Have we not been marching for decades about this? What a laugh! Absolutely everyone here knew it was not done properly and could be overturned.

You may continue to kid yourself if you think otherwise. That is what is most comfortable for most.

That’s both how and why. And please also share the crime statistics from your home area in US from 10 years ago and from today.

Let’s hope other countries are ok, esp Palestine. The USA’s interference in so much of the world and its meddling for greed and influence has decimated the Middle East. The USA has been at war for 231 out of its 248 years of existence. That’s insane! The world will be much better off when the US as a super power comes to an end. Hopefully soon

Please, hold your breath until that happens.

I'm sure you would much rather it be China and Russia as the main superpowers. Or Iran. 🙄

I don't understand what you mean by your first sentence. Were you too busy trying to gain some understanding of the Dobbs decision and what led up to it to phrase it better?

I don't know crime statistics from my home area, but it seems to be a fact that overall violent crime is down pretty sharply under Biden

www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-06-18/i-didn-t-think-biden-affected-crime-rates-i-was-wrong

Trump is already trying to pull out of the next presidential debate, hardly screams that he's feeling confident.

It might have been on Biden’s watch but Trump supplied the tools to do it. Three of the judges who voted to overturn Roe v Wade were appointed by Trump. And make no mistake, Trumps’ stance is clear - he wants abortion banned in every state. So does Vance. They’re citing the 14th Amendment that no person can be denied life or liberty without due process. The 2024 Republican platform maintains that embryos are people with constitutional rights and must be protected under the law and seek to bestow “personhood” rights on fertilized eggs. Any woman in the States who values their rights needs to give Trump a wide berth.

Trump appointed the Justices who said they'd overturn Roe v Wade. That was Trump. The President can't actually make a decision for SCOTUS, or overturn any SCOTUS decision, but they can appoint the judges, so that happened on Trump's watch.

There is no retirement. There is no need for a national address or a coherent plan or indeed any plan at all. He is still President and will serve out his term. He just isn't re-contesting the next election. That's all.

Agree, he didn’t retire, he’s still in office. But my own opinion is that he should have stepped down as president. The Democrats are already struggling with the damage he’s done and there’s the potential to do more between now and November. If he resigned it would give the electorate a chance to get to know Harris and maybe improve the Democrats’ chances. Harris doesn’t only have the normal pressures of running for office - she’s also black and female, and as much as I’d like to think we’re living in a more enlightened society, l think she’s going to struggle.

Trump appointed the Justices who said they'd overturn Roe v Wade. That was Trump. The President can't actually make a decision for SCOTUS, or overturn any SCOTUS decision, but they can appoint the judges, so that happened on Trump's watch

Actually I believe he appointed three of the nine Supreme Court judges, though all three were catholic - something which worries me when it comes to legislation around reproductive rights

And unfortunately Trump's dishonesty relies rather too much on "how things look" for my taste, so I'd fully expect him to use "On Biden's watch" if it comes to it, regardless of the details

Edited to apologise, @Rosscameasdoody; I notice you already mentioned "the three", but clicked on the other notification before seeing this

Google the Republican platform 2024. Trump and Vance will try to introduce legislation so that the 14th amendment of the US constitution can be applied to the fertilised egg. It’s their intention to have abortion banned without exception or exemption. Then they’ll turn their attentions to contraception. The misogyny is terrifying.

That’s an interesting point. If Biden either deteriorates further or is hidden away there will be a strong sense of Harris’s collusion in a very worrying situation, surely?

Better for her - and the US - if she campaigns in office as President.

I don't know - is she seriously meant to do an excellent job of running the country while being a newbie at it, while ALSO running what needs to be a very intense campaign?

Putting her in office now will inevitably result in a huge magnifying glass where every tiny misstep will be blown out of all proportion by the Republicans and the media.

Keep her focused on the future of the country, I think.

I already knew, @Rosscameasdoody, but guess I've put this badly because suggesting Trump's wouldn't attack women's rights wasn't my intention

Rather, I'm concerned that because Roe vs Wade was overturned during a Democrat term, Trump will use this to spin it

If they ban contraception that will annoy the men because women just won't have sex with them. So I doubt that will gain traction.

The anti abortion thing is terrifying if women cannot decide for themselves they ought to clamp their knees shut and loudly proclaim why they're doing so. If enough senators, governors, judges are outed as having been cut off by their wives, they'll think a lot harder.

If enough senators, governors, judges are outed as having been cut off by their wives, they'll think a lot harder

Or if some are revealed to have procured abortions for their mistresses

We don't hear a great deal about this kind of thing these days, but I can see we easily might if women's rights come under further attack and their advocates start digging

It's a good chance to get Kamala win. Hope she does.

Exactly the reply I expected. Unable to answer. Unwilling to treat others with respect.

In the long term, it may be better for the United States to elect Trump since he cannot run again after a second term. If he loses in November, he could theoretically still run again in future, however unlikely that might seem.

Lance the boil, so to speak.

After that, the US could look again at their politics and make whatever changes are required, if possible.

Strategically, Democrats would be better off putting their efforts into having control of Congress when those elections occur next.

The United States has enough checks and balances to restrain a President acting ultra vires and unconstitutionally, especially Congress and the Supreme Court.

The choice is clear - choose a tactical victory which is short term gain or choose a strategic victory which is a long term gain.

He can do a great deal of damage in that time.

What usually happens when abortion is banned is that people try to get back street abortions instead. Resulting in awful complications.

It’s astounding to think this is what could happen.

There are a lot of misogynistic comments on Instagram. When Vance was selected - one post said ‘now the women will be told their place by men’ 😮

Checks and balances are there for this purpose which is also much stricter there than comparable systems in Europe.

As I said, the choice is between a tactical victory which is voting a Democrat in whilst leaving the option for Trump to run again OR a strategic victory where he's President for a final time and Congress puts him in a straitjacket after last time.

One is short term thinking while the other is long term thinking.

There are now rumours that Biden is dead ...