There should be the death penalty for Karl Clifford and those like him

[HermioneWeasley]

There is no doubt he did it. No case of mistaken identity. He’s taken 3 lives. He should be executed.

Absolutely now I'm not saying a fight outside the pub with an accidental death shouid = dp but there's cases it couid be entirely appropriate. If it was I'd put forward levi bellfield and venables

They are the tip of the iceberg and do not reflect the true scale of crime committed in the UK. Hardly any rapists are prosecuted, for example. Around 75% of burglaries go unsolved. On average a criminal commits around 40 crimes that go unprosecuted for every crime of which they are convicted. Criminals know the odds of actually ending up in prison are slim.

I agree with you here honestly I do! OMG Levi Bellfield another scumbag 😡 I watched a documentary on him!

Personally I think a lot of notorious serial killers etc would have a lot of people lining up to take them out. It’s not just a few on here who feel this way.

I've seen a few on him! I think he committed far more crimes 😩 anyway Ian Huntly 75k per year for hes special cell!

Are you not seeing him as scum then? Your ok with what he has done and don’t think he deserves the worst even having all the therapy and money spent on him to be rehabilitated and to give him another chance in life you feel that this individual who continues to reoffend shouldn’t be taken out? Your condoning an Indiviual who stoned a toddler to death and the list of disgusting shit he did to this poor innocent child goes on should be allowed to breathe the same oxygen as we do? What are you saying here? I am not just one individual who also has this opinion by the way there are loads of people out there who would line up to actually give this piece a shit a taste of his own medicine! If he didn’t get granted a new identity which again tax payers paid for so this guy could walk the streets without being noticed or identified he would be dead by now anyways. You know what? It’s a shame that hasn’t happened if honest because that’s what he deserves. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah they say that don’t they that there’s more to him which they’ve not been able to piece together but think he has definitely done more than what was actually found out. Are you joking me? 75k!!!!! This makes me soo angry! It really does 😡

When you get chance look into the lin and Megan Russell case involving a 6 year old girl and the connection to levi he's confessed to it twice and wasn't taken seriously!

I will do. How can they not take him seriously when he’s confessing 🤦🏼‍♀️ I know some serial killers do sometimes confess too more crimes they haven’t committed due to wanting to be more famous and more known but seriously they need to look into it

People would do better to forget the names of these sadists and killers. Trust me, they like your anger and the hate

I agree there's definitely false confessions but he gave details that wasn't released to the press yet they was like we've got our man 🫣

The state should never ever ever have the right to take its citizens lives.

No matter what they have done.

I've literally said he's (and/or killers like him) a piece of excrement. That means "shit". I'm not condoning him - if we're going to discuss this don't be dishonest.

It doesn't mean i therefore think it's ok to kill someone. That is what he thought.

Just to be completely clear - do you agree with this statement:
You feel justified in killing someone who you see as scum and you want to do it to satisfy your desire for violence and to personally inflict pain and death.

If you're hesitating to say yes - why?

How am I hesitating to say yes when I’ve already said yes previously? 🤣 also I don’t have a desire it’s not like I love the thought of inflicting pain and death on other people I just don’t think in certain circumstances like the venables case, rose and Fred west case, Ian Brady case, Levi bellfid case and numerous other notorious cases they should be allowed to live. Considering the depth of their cases I think they should be taken out as they are pure evil. Now please stop trying to start a pointless argument with me about these pieces of scum as there is no need for you to start getting personal and assume I have a desire to harm people 🙄 talk about take something way out of context and exaggerate the hell out of it!

Are we sisters?! I agree with you.

And we hear on the news this morning that Labour are planning an early release scheme to free up prison places.

I used to work in a prison. There was high security around the internet and they were not allowed email access. Dental treatment was very often delayed.

I don't agree with the death penalty.

Practically anyway it is not a deterrent and actually costs more than keeping someone in prison due to all the legal proceedings.

They're not going to be releasing murderers. It will be low level criminals who probably don't even need to be in prison at all and would benefit more from rehab schemes.

Prisoners who are already serving life sentences will sometimes confess to crimes for bribes. Pretty sure the people who investigate this don't need advice from mumsnet.

Pretty sure I don’t need to read sarcastic remarks if honest. We was having a discussion about the case. Not pretending we are the professionals 🙄🙄

It's a public forum, free for anyone to comment.

Give over, I'm am Atheist and appreciate life as you only get one. I think people who take a life should not be given the privilege to keep theirs.

Ending someone's life isn't massacring the same way they done, it's meerly a push of a button and hardly the same.

A push of a button?
What are you talking about! Idiotic comment

You’re just out for a row I’ll leave you to your day. 🙄