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Thread 1 Starmer: A New Hope

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DuncinToffee · 06/07/2024 11:07

Please tread lightly on our dreams.

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Thread 1 Starmer: A New Hope
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prettybird · 08/07/2024 20:20

Friends of ours who are ski instructors built themselves a chalet in the Alps in the last c5 years. They had to install a heat pump as their main heating. They do also have a wood burner though.

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 08/07/2024 20:24

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 20:12

Absolutely.

As with 20mph speed limits in residential areas, there is much that England could learn from Wales.
In fact the Norwich housing example, and the London hospital (was it St Georges?) that is doing things differently, show that all the answers are out there, one just has to have someone interested in improving the country to encourage their wider up take.

Yes and work out how the small scale projects that have worked well can be scaled up - I think that's one of the major challenges for any government.

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 08/07/2024 20:26

prettybird · 08/07/2024 20:20

Friends of ours who are ski instructors built themselves a chalet in the Alps in the last c5 years. They had to install a heat pump as their main heating. They do also have a wood burner though.

I'm a huge fan of heat pumps for well insulated homes. I'm disappointed that they're often viewed so negatively on here as our experience in two houses has been very positive.

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 20:29

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 08/07/2024 20:26

I'm a huge fan of heat pumps for well insulated homes. I'm disappointed that they're often viewed so negatively on here as our experience in two houses has been very positive.

The key, is in well insulated homes, probably with underfloor heating rather than radiators.
The trouble is most of the UK housing stock, including some new builds are not well insulated.

fungipie · 08/07/2024 20:31

ah but according to the lovely (!) Laura K, Starmer should have got 14 years of destruction put right- by yesterday! What a nasty, horrible person she is, and her bias screams out.

SerendipityJane · 08/07/2024 20:39

fungipie · 08/07/2024 20:31

ah but according to the lovely (!) Laura K, Starmer should have got 14 years of destruction put right- by yesterday! What a nasty, horrible person she is, and her bias screams out.

Vorders is gunning for her ...

itsgettingweird · 08/07/2024 20:40

Yes the title of the report I read was about Vorders wanting her gone!!!

The whole into to Ed Davey and then her comment just screamed bias and actually was just downright patronising.

MotherOfGodWeeFella · 08/07/2024 20:43

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 08/07/2024 20:26

I'm a huge fan of heat pumps for well insulated homes. I'm disappointed that they're often viewed so negatively on here as our experience in two houses has been very positive.

There's a new generation of heat pumps coming out which generate more heat. But, the cost of heat pumps means there is no cost benefit to consumers over conventional heating especially if you need to pay for insulation, new windows, etc.

Piggywaspushed · 08/07/2024 20:46

https://automaticknowledge.org/images/ge2024-uk-chart-600dpi.png

This is endlessly fascinating.

prettybird · 08/07/2024 20:47

We installed a new gas boiler about 4 years ago (replacing a c40 year old Ideal Standard one), so not really in the market for heat or ground source pumps.

We're on the 1st floor and attic floor of a stone built Victorian villa (c3ft thick solid stone walls (we know from when we had a new window put in Wink) in a conservation area so I'm not sure where we would be able to install one Confused.

Things might develop though by the time we need to replace our boiler.

Our higher priority at the moment is to replace the remaining (drafty) 4 single glazed sash windows and the double height arched window on the stair well with double glazed units. We did the bay window, one of the kitchen windows (the other kitchen window the new one was already double glazed) and the bathroom window, last year, which cost us c£8,500 as they had to be wooden sashes. The double height stair window will cost us a fortune! Shock

Rishibyebye · 08/07/2024 21:00

upinaballoon · 08/07/2024 15:41

I am gearing up to write to them to say, ok, build houses, BUT

make the size of the development to a decent scale, by law,

make a law which absolutely dictates that trees and hedges must be included, on the estate, not just in the gardens, at a certain number or percentage per number of houses,

make a law that earth is to be covered to a minimum, little, not loads, of gravel, tarmac, block paving etc., just a few slabs to drive the car up to the garage,

make a law which says every dwelling has to have some decorative brickwork on it, so it isn't as plain as plain, and the decoration will last for the life of the dwelling and not rot away, need painting etc.,

make a law which says that all exterior lights on a dwelling must not exceed 2 per dwelling and must be on a time control of 10 minutes, and

consider that not every block of flats has to be 27 storeys high, 5 or 6 could be useful.

No, I do not trust developers, local people, county councils or district council planning committees to do any of these things unless forced to by building regulations.

And a development over so many houses needs to have allotments if the council area is over subsidised! Over 60 in our area in the wait list.

AhNowTed · 08/07/2024 21:07

Piggywaspushed · 08/07/2024 20:46

It sure is!

keffie12 · 08/07/2024 21:45

It's just a lovely photo from me. I am feeling so peaceful that the utter nightmare of the last 14/8 especially is over. The grown-ups are back in charge.

As I said to a friend today, when she asked if things would improve, my response was, "They already have. We have a government in charge who is about service. About change and see doing their job. Politics should be what we have been seeing since Friday. "

I also said,"Look at it like this - if you have ever struggled for money or been in debt, you know it takes a while for things yo start improving. They have to get the foundations right. "

Sir Keir Starmer with Neil Kinock below. I love this picture of

Thread 1 Starmer: A New Hope
HannibalHeyes · 08/07/2024 21:56

Stuzi

@stuzi_pants

I can’t wait until it comes out that 60% of the Reform Party candidates only existed on Minecraft

x.com

https://x.com/stuzi_pants

Cheguevarahamster · 08/07/2024 21:59

HannibalHeyes · 08/07/2024 21:56

Stuzi

@stuzi_pants

I can’t wait until it comes out that 60% of the Reform Party candidates only existed on Minecraft

Sorry been a busy few days and trying to catch up. Wonderful to see all the shiny new MPs.

The Reform phantom candidates is very weird. I wonder if any constituencies will need to be rerun if it does come to pass that some of the Reform people don't exist?

Piggywaspushed · 08/07/2024 22:04

Tories will be apoplectic and it's not even Labour's fault.

I'm having enormous fun on Noble Giraffe's thread.

AhNowTed · 08/07/2024 22:07

@keffie12

Same.

The fecking RELIEF!

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 08/07/2024 22:27

absquatulize · 08/07/2024 20:29

The key, is in well insulated homes, probably with underfloor heating rather than radiators.
The trouble is most of the UK housing stock, including some new builds are not well insulated.

Yes, you're absolutely right - we currently have 3g, UFH throughout and an air source heat pump and our heating bills are next to nothing.

KitKatChunki · 08/07/2024 22:33

Maybe we could add a list of topics at the top of the threads which are no go areas? Quite a few posters getting flamed over the last few days over things that seem like news events - Gaza, Grammar school, Women's Rights...

I know everyone is tired but as a lurker it's a bit daunting to post if we don't know the rules!

BIossomtoes · 08/07/2024 22:35

KitKatChunki · 08/07/2024 22:33

Maybe we could add a list of topics at the top of the threads which are no go areas? Quite a few posters getting flamed over the last few days over things that seem like news events - Gaza, Grammar school, Women's Rights...

I know everyone is tired but as a lurker it's a bit daunting to post if we don't know the rules!

There isn’t a list. By mutual consent the trans issue isn’t discussed on this series of threads. Everything else is fine.

MotherFeministWoman · 08/07/2024 22:38

keffie12 · 08/07/2024 21:45

It's just a lovely photo from me. I am feeling so peaceful that the utter nightmare of the last 14/8 especially is over. The grown-ups are back in charge.

As I said to a friend today, when she asked if things would improve, my response was, "They already have. We have a government in charge who is about service. About change and see doing their job. Politics should be what we have been seeing since Friday. "

I also said,"Look at it like this - if you have ever struggled for money or been in debt, you know it takes a while for things yo start improving. They have to get the foundations right. "

Sir Keir Starmer with Neil Kinock below. I love this picture of

I love this picture too. Where is it from please?

TheCatRenamed · 08/07/2024 22:51

VimtoVimto · 08/07/2024 16:45

I had a friend who studied Housing Studies at degree level in the early 1980’s and at that time he said that council housing had to be built to higher standards than private housing.

I find that hard to believe. Not much public housing was going up then, and j the quality of what was going up a few years earlier was pretty awful. High rises e.g. Ronan Point higher quality?

AhNowTed · 08/07/2024 22:52

Fab map and stats if anyone is interested (robbed off X)

Thread 1 Starmer: A New Hope
Zonder · 08/07/2024 22:54

keffie12 · 08/07/2024 21:45

It's just a lovely photo from me. I am feeling so peaceful that the utter nightmare of the last 14/8 especially is over. The grown-ups are back in charge.

As I said to a friend today, when she asked if things would improve, my response was, "They already have. We have a government in charge who is about service. About change and see doing their job. Politics should be what we have been seeing since Friday. "

I also said,"Look at it like this - if you have ever struggled for money or been in debt, you know it takes a while for things yo start improving. They have to get the foundations right. "

Sir Keir Starmer with Neil Kinock below. I love this picture of

I love this.