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Why conservative voters handle election outcomes better than Labour voters

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hidinginplainsight2 · 06/07/2024 07:00

It's been 14 years since Labour and Remainers have won a large vote, but you wouldn't know it. Every panel show seems determined to tell Conservative and Brexit voters how stupid they are, as if those doing the bashing are the majority. For instance, shows like BBC's Question Time and Have I Got News For You have often featured heated debates where Conservative and Brexit supporters are frequently criticised.

Now that they’ve actually won a vote, the annoyance will surely be even louder. In the 2019 general election, the Conservatives won a significant majority, securing 365 seats compared to Labour's 202. Similarly, the 2016 Brexit referendum saw 52% of voters choosing to leave the EU, yet the aftermath was marked by continuous debates and criticisms from Remain supporters.

I can't see Conservative voters taking the same stance as Labour voters have for years and telling their opposition how stupid they are.

I guess Conservative voters must be the bigger people.

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LegoLegoLegoLegoLego · 06/07/2024 07:01

Yeah that must be it.

CurlewKate · 06/07/2024 07:04

Well, as someone who has spend quite a lot of time being g called a bleeding heart unpatriotic liberal who hates my country and a champagne socialist I beg to differ. Oh, and a terrorist supporter who wants to let rapists out on the streets and ban Christmas...
Shall I go on?

JaninaDuszejko · 06/07/2024 07:04

Some conservatives voted remain and some labour supporters voted for brexit.

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Maddy70 · 06/07/2024 07:05

Labour and remainers?

Cameron was the remainer Corbyn was the leaver

Billyballyboo · 06/07/2024 07:06

I agree. Conservatives tend to be a lot more stoical than those on the left and much less inclined to vitriolic rhetoric.

combinationpadlock · 06/07/2024 07:06

sure. Bigger people. Of course. that must be it. Their record bares this out. of course it does.

hidinginplainsight2 · 06/07/2024 07:07

CurlewKate · 06/07/2024 07:04

Well, as someone who has spend quite a lot of time being g called a bleeding heart unpatriotic liberal who hates my country and a champagne socialist I beg to differ. Oh, and a terrorist supporter who wants to let rapists out on the streets and ban Christmas...
Shall I go on?

What mainstream TV show was that viewpoint presented on?

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WuTangGran · 06/07/2024 07:07

Fuck the Tories.

user675654 · 06/07/2024 07:07

This will go well.

please don’t conflate conservatives and leavers. Half or more were remainers. it wasn’t an issue that was split by party in that way.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 06/07/2024 07:09

Since your post is telling everyone how superior Tory voters are, I think you have made your point very eloquently.

110APiccadilly · 06/07/2024 07:09

I'm broadly conservative (small c, not a lot I agree with the party on!) Part of that to me means respect for the system/ rule of law/ etc. So it's more important to me that the process is respected/ followed than that "my side" wins. (Quotes used as the Conservative party are not my side anyway, I'm pretty glad they lost as they didn't deserve to win. I'm just sad the best alternative available was Labour.)

I guess if you're more radical then perhaps you already are against the process itself (e.g. you might support PR rather than FPTP) and so it's easier (and in all honesty, fairer) for you to blame the process if you lose.

Billyballyboo · 06/07/2024 07:10

WuTangGran · 06/07/2024 07:07

Fuck the Tories.

Demonstrating my point beautifully.

WuTangGran · 06/07/2024 07:12

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hidinginplainsight2 · 06/07/2024 07:15

It looks like my point was proven in the first few messages someone whose only response is "f* the tories" this isn't educated, it isn't understanding that there are people with different viewpoints and political persuasions. It's the lowest form of argument.

And yet it's an incredibly common phrase that conservative voters just have to accept, it's in our faces all the time.

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Tinkerbot · 06/07/2024 07:18

I agree OP - I'm in Scotland and the attitude of 'those poor, poor Scots who deserve independence and all want it' - NONONONO just under half of those questioned in polls want indpendence so a vote would FAIL (and I bet the polls are in the central belt as round here across the south of the country we are S T I L L voting conservative) ......SO stop all the self-pity and get a bluddy grip and move on.

spuddy4 · 06/07/2024 07:19

I agree. I've voted for labour, conservative and most recently reform but I respect the outcome of the vote.

I also find labour supporters most vocal in the run up to an election. Saying that there's still a lot of people on here just as vocal now even though labour won so they'll never be happy.

NextFriYAY · 06/07/2024 07:21

Irony at work for all to see on here OP. You’re a subtle one, aren’t you <wink>

RampantIvy · 06/07/2024 07:21

I guess Conservative voters must be the bigger people.

I guess Conservative voters must be the bigger wealthier people.

BishyBarnyBee · 06/07/2024 07:24

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So coming on here to make offensive and personal comments makes you a good loser?

See also the rash of posts yesterday criticising the way labour women look and making unfounded accusations that Starmer is a multi millionaire.

Not sure either side has a monopoly on good manners/being a good loser, and you surely aren't proving your point.

TheCadoganArms · 06/07/2024 07:26

Brexit crossed party lines and several years on most polls indicate that the majority of people see it as the car crash that it is yet curiously it was not an election discussion point. I am traditionally a small c conservative but the loathing I have for the current crop of outgoing Tories is hard to articulate. It is a strange day when you look back on John Majors government which at the time was stale, out of ideas and mired in sleaze and they look like statesman of the first order compared to the current mob. What they have done to the country is nothing short of vandalism and unlike 1997 where there was a wave of optimism we now have a flat feeling of how the fuck do we even begin to fix things.

hidinginplainsight2 · 06/07/2024 07:26

RampantIvy · 06/07/2024 07:21

I guess Conservative voters must be the bigger people.

I guess Conservative voters must be the bigger wealthier people.

In 2019, 48% of C2DE voters supported the Conservatives, compared to 33% who supported Labour. Your statement is flawed. A significant portion of Conservative support comes from lower socioeconomic groups, challenging the notion that Conservative voters are primarily wealthy.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 06/07/2024 07:29

I've wiped the mud off my hands (Thanks for the advice OP) to provide an example of Tory 'bigger people' behaviour this morning from the Daily Mail.
BORIS JOHNSON: Starmer's majority is built on sand - it's a mile wide and an inch deep. Here's my ten-point guide to bashing Labour and getting back into power.
It makes one proud that he was PM.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 06/07/2024 07:29

I am amazed every time at the self righteousness of the left. I’m a left leaning, floating voter with friends of all political persuasions. In my family we effectively cancel out each other’s votes with our various views.

My labour friends are vitriolic in victory and loss alike. It’s really weird because they are generally good people but they truly can’t accept diversity of thought in politics. They would never insult their friends and neighbours directly, but freely do so all over social media and in political conversations. Their friends, neighbours and colleagues are voting 30/30/30 for the other parties. Are they actually all ignorant deluded, selfish, greedy? I doubt it.

Why don’t they see it? It’s like brainwashing. Many can’t have nuanced political conversations either- it’s mainly slogans and catch phrases strung together.

Triestre · 06/07/2024 07:33

YANBU

Bigger and much more civilised people. There is not need to put others down and wish them the worse.