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To people who voted Reform…

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 13:53

…and ended up with a Labour MP (due to splitting the conservative vote), how do you feel?

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Sunflowergirl1 · 05/07/2024 13:56

Not me but some friends did and they are not bothered. They so wanted to send a message to the sitting MP that they will not support them any more due to all the reasons played out. Will be a powerful reminder to MPs in the future

caringcarer · 05/07/2024 14:05

I voted Reform UK and got a labour person. Wouldn't have made any difference because if I added the Tory vote to Reform UK they still would not have reached the number that Labour got. Where I live only 51 percent turnout. The Labour vote share went down very slightly from bi election. Personally I believe Labour will have only a very brief honeymoon because the money simply isn't there to improve public services without taxing people more or borrowing yet more money. I think the people who voted Labour thinking they'd get better public services will be disappointed and grow disillusioned over the first year. Once Labour raise council taxes on people with gardens, raises inheritance tax and raid pensions I think they'll get voted out in 5 years time.

Jourl · 05/07/2024 14:05

I really hope they raise taxes 🙏

NoLongerATeacher · 05/07/2024 14:08

Is that because you’re on benefits Jourl? I’m retired - I’ve paid enough tax thank you very much.

ThistleWitch · 05/07/2024 14:09

caringcarer · 05/07/2024 14:05

I voted Reform UK and got a labour person. Wouldn't have made any difference because if I added the Tory vote to Reform UK they still would not have reached the number that Labour got. Where I live only 51 percent turnout. The Labour vote share went down very slightly from bi election. Personally I believe Labour will have only a very brief honeymoon because the money simply isn't there to improve public services without taxing people more or borrowing yet more money. I think the people who voted Labour thinking they'd get better public services will be disappointed and grow disillusioned over the first year. Once Labour raise council taxes on people with gardens, raises inheritance tax and raid pensions I think they'll get voted out in 5 years time.

Guessing by your user name, you're a carer?

What was it about the reform party that made you vote for them?

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 14:15

Urgh, God, I've yet to be on the chastised side in all these achingly sanctimonious threads that do this, look at what you've done, schtick but it is so cringe it is painful.

The Tories lost this election and handed it to labour because they failed to deliver on any of the mandates that put them into power in 2019. It was theirs to lose.

The idea then, that people should vote against their better judgement to have more of the same is ridiculous. They had no investment in the status quo.

Now we have a Tory candidate who was returned and not booted out by reflex because clearly he didn't piss everyone off. Which is really the minimum should you hope to achieve to remain in power.

TheBigStrawberry · 05/07/2024 14:20

NoLongerATeacher · 05/07/2024 14:08

Is that because you’re on benefits Jourl? I’m retired - I’ve paid enough tax thank you very much.

You haven't though, that's one of the reasons why state pensions and the NHS are in such a state. I wish we could go back in time and tax property gains properly but that's not possible so the next best thing is higher taxes now.

SwingingVoter · 05/07/2024 14:21

I didn't vote reform.
But I imagine it's to stick it to the tories who messed around and lost all that support.
People voted Boris in, no one else and yet it seems like a life time ago when he took to the lecturn

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:22

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 14:15

Urgh, God, I've yet to be on the chastised side in all these achingly sanctimonious threads that do this, look at what you've done, schtick but it is so cringe it is painful.

The Tories lost this election and handed it to labour because they failed to deliver on any of the mandates that put them into power in 2019. It was theirs to lose.

The idea then, that people should vote against their better judgement to have more of the same is ridiculous. They had no investment in the status quo.

Now we have a Tory candidate who was returned and not booted out by reflex because clearly he didn't piss everyone off. Which is really the minimum should you hope to achieve to remain in power.

Edited

Sorry I’m lost here. From what angle do you think I am chastising people or being sanctimonious? What’s wrong with trying to understand how people in a different circumstance to me feel about things?

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SkippysEar · 05/07/2024 14:22

It's isn't necessarily as straighforward as that. Perhaps in some places but not all.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:24

SkippysEar · 05/07/2024 14:22

It's isn't necessarily as straighforward as that. Perhaps in some places but not all.

My question applies to people where it is straightforward. There are lots of places like that.

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HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 14:24

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:22

Sorry I’m lost here. From what angle do you think I am chastising people or being sanctimonious? What’s wrong with trying to understand how people in a different circumstance to me feel about things?

Your post comes across as hahaha look what you did are you happy.

Ffs just live your life and stop trying to trip people up for things you think they've inadvertently done that they didn't want.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:27

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 14:24

Your post comes across as hahaha look what you did are you happy.

Ffs just live your life and stop trying to trip people up for things you think they've inadvertently done that they didn't want.

You’re just projecting that on to me though? It’s a genuine question about how people feel about their new Labour MP. I don’t know whether these voters are happy with the result or not, whether it’s better or worse in their opinion to the Tory candidate. Thus my question.

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Theunamedcat · 05/07/2024 14:27

NoLongerATeacher · 05/07/2024 14:08

Is that because you’re on benefits Jourl? I’m retired - I’ve paid enough tax thank you very much.

Rude

People on benefits pay taxes too

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 14:27

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 14:24

Your post comes across as hahaha look what you did are you happy.

Ffs just live your life and stop trying to trip people up for things you think they've inadvertently done that they didn't want.

Not just me then? 😁

TheMayoWayo · 05/07/2024 14:27

My seat is a 100% safe labour seat

Exit poll gave 99% certainty of labour, and even though I have never voted labour ever every time get a labour mp.

So the fact I voted for reform this year WAS to reduce the amount of overall votes conservative got. I knew I'd not get a conservative OR ANY OTHER MP than labour because of my constituency

Many people I know voted reform because they absolutely could not vote conservative and felt they absolutely could not vote labour,

aloha90210 · 05/07/2024 14:27

I'm not delighted that Labour have got in but the writing was on the wall.

Yes I voted reform.

I think it's very telling when you look at the votes that we cast (rather than seats) there really wasn't a huge gap between Labour-Conservative and Conservative-Reform. It was actually a close run contest.

But, that's not how it works with the allocation of seats etc so there we are!

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:28

TheMayoWayo · 05/07/2024 14:27

My seat is a 100% safe labour seat

Exit poll gave 99% certainty of labour, and even though I have never voted labour ever every time get a labour mp.

So the fact I voted for reform this year WAS to reduce the amount of overall votes conservative got. I knew I'd not get a conservative OR ANY OTHER MP than labour because of my constituency

Many people I know voted reform because they absolutely could not vote conservative and felt they absolutely could not vote labour,

Thanks for your comment. But you sound like another poster whose situation is different to the one I asked about in my OP.

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Harvestfestivalknickers · 05/07/2024 14:29

People are free to vote for whichever party they want. They don't have to justify it, answer for it or explain why. If voting for Reform split the Tory vote, so be it. There's obviously a reason why.

SwingingVoter · 05/07/2024 14:30

Op I don't understand why you don't understand how different people vote?. It feels very sanctimonious and far reaching.
I look at Biden and trump I can fully understand why both get votes. I look at the origins of the second world war and I can understand why Hitler got support.

Understanding doesn't equal agreeing does it?
Maybe look into history more?

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 05/07/2024 14:31

I’m not requesting a justification. This is a huge set of people who’ve had a huge impact on the election and I’m curious how they feel. There are a lot of posters clogging up replies to this thread. If you don’t like the question or it’s not relevant to you then don’t answer.

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willowtolive · 05/07/2024 14:31

Surprised how many reform voters there were in my constituency in Cornwall. Although adding them to the Tory votes still wouldn't have beaten the Lib Dem candidate.

Summerfreezemakesmedrinkwine · 05/07/2024 14:32

Clogging up the replies 😂😂 You must be new.

CollyBobble · 05/07/2024 14:33

We knew this would be the outcome as the area is unfortunately, traditionally Labour but we are pleased that the tide is turning and a decent result was gained by our Reform candidate.

Labour 20,480
Cons 8,913
Reform. 8,530
Plaid
Cymru. 3,942
Lib Dem 2,593
Green. 2,488
Ind. 283

SkippysEar · 05/07/2024 14:33

Give us some examples of where it's so black and white. In many it was just Labour heartlands going back to red after a brief flirtation with Tory.