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One thing you're confident Labour can sort/change

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Toomuch44 · 05/07/2024 11:13

Have to admit, I've never voted labour (but did change my vote this time around), have lived in a very safe Tory seat (but now LibDem) for years. Totally accept we need a change.

If you voted labour or know a lot about politics, I'd be interested to know one thing you feel confident they can sort, do better on or bring in that will be beneficial. No arguments/criticisms of others please.

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EllyGi · 05/07/2024 12:19

They will increases taxes so much that I would need to sell my kidney to survive day to day. That would sum up the effect. The incentive to quit my job and live on benefits is real.

Everyoneesleistheproblem · 05/07/2024 12:19

I think they could help with the housing situation pretty simply/ cheaply if they did something about landlords and property portfolios?
If it become too onerous to be a landlord of any scale and too expensive to let property lie empty it could free houses to be back on the market. Without the cash rich landlords buying it all maybe the market will settle down.
And you could still have right to buy but anything sold would have to be sold back to a HA at market rate.

Pudmyboy · 05/07/2024 12:19

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2024 11:58

What is one thing you're confident Labour can sort/change?
The perception that Labour are amazing and will solve all the world's problems.
😂

(I wouldn't have the confidence that ANY party can definitely solve any issue atm, because there is a general lack of joined up political thinking thats shared by all the parties atm, because they focus on ideology rather than problem solving).

Agree 100% @RedToothBrush !

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TheFairyCaravan · 05/07/2024 12:20

I’m hoping that they will stop the vilification of disabled people and that they won’t proceed with the Tory’s cruel idea of giving people on PIP vouchers instead of money.

Every time Sunak was asked how he’d pay for things, he said he’d cut welfare. That has to stop. Obviously some people do take the piss, but it’s not those who are disabled and claim PIP where the fraud rate is almost zero. He’s a billionaire yet all he can do is pick on the most vulnerable. Vile little man. I’m so glad he’s gone.

PrincessConsuelaBag · 05/07/2024 12:21

Not quite related but I am massively impressed by Angela Rayners journey to now deputy PM. To leave school at 16, pregnant and no exams to becoming the countries deputy PM is incredible IMHO.

friendlycat · 05/07/2024 12:22

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2024 11:58

What is one thing you're confident Labour can sort/change?
The perception that Labour are amazing and will solve all the world's problems.
😂

(I wouldn't have the confidence that ANY party can definitely solve any issue atm, because there is a general lack of joined up political thinking thats shared by all the parties atm, because they focus on ideology rather than problem solving).

I'm afraid I agree.

We have significant problems as a country and each government doesn't dare actually address some of the huge issues. NHS being one of them.

It would require serious work across all parties to achieve significant reform and sadly that just doesn't happen.

Bumpitybumper · 05/07/2024 12:23

I am confident that a term of Labour rule will hopefully change the prevailing narrative that all of the UK's problems are a result of the Tory government. We desperately need a reality check and to understand that we have a population that is sicker, older and more entitled than ever. Because of this the state and institutions like the NHS and schools are going to become unsustainable and completely unaffordable unless we make radical change. We simply can't raise enough through taxation to fund everything that people feel they should be entitled to.

I think people have lost sight of how much everything costs. It costs thousands per week to look after an elderly person in a care home. It can cost similar to look after a child at a specialist educational school. Operations and medicines can extremely expensive, just giving birth costs £7k! It costs £7k to educate a child in a state school. You can see how very few people are net contributors into the system and some place an extremely high burden on the system that will need very many contributors to cover. In this context it is very hard to balance the books without taxing people into oblivion and removing all incentive for people to do what's required to grow the economy. Who on earth chooses to work long, hard hours or risk everything starting a business if you know that you will be taxed so heavily if you succeed?

Cosmosforbreakfast · 05/07/2024 12:23

I have faith in Labour that they will enable dangerous men to access women's spaces and ensure women can't do a thing about it.

nearlylovemyusername · 05/07/2024 12:24

FundingitallHow · 05/07/2024 11:18

Nothing because the problems we have are global. I hope he will bring back initiative like sure start and the brown 250 for each child, lower uni fees and raise the tax threshold to benefit lower earners.
I hope he tackles the lack of ignorance around sen in school.
Unfortunately I think the problems we face need deeper and better thinking to tackle them and I've not got a single line during all the campaign to reassure me anything will change.
I don't think throwing money at the NHS will solve a single thing.
I don't think more teachers will do anything for education although of course it would help a little.
I think ordinary people will become increasingly disengaged and disenfranchised and lead to a possible reform victory in the next election.

absolutely this

Jimblebells · 05/07/2024 12:24

They will sort out the richest by taxing them out of the country as a first priority, then they will tax the private schools which won't really affect the richest, but will affect the upper middle class who sacrifice their earnings to try to make better lives for the next generation so will push them back down a bit to get into public schools. The unions will get more power so will see more industrial action. In reality other than this they probably won't have any quick fix to the broken world anytime soon.

5128gap · 05/07/2024 12:24

They will govern from an underlying ideological position that matches my own. That's enough for now.

Allthislovelygreen · 05/07/2024 12:25

I'm very nervous just because I'm not even sure what their manifesto was? Did they make any promises?

Don't think they even mentioned their NHS plan, as in, are they going to give the junior doctors the 35% pay rise?

jockeywilsonsaid · 05/07/2024 12:26

Bumpitybumper · 05/07/2024 12:23

I am confident that a term of Labour rule will hopefully change the prevailing narrative that all of the UK's problems are a result of the Tory government. We desperately need a reality check and to understand that we have a population that is sicker, older and more entitled than ever. Because of this the state and institutions like the NHS and schools are going to become unsustainable and completely unaffordable unless we make radical change. We simply can't raise enough through taxation to fund everything that people feel they should be entitled to.

I think people have lost sight of how much everything costs. It costs thousands per week to look after an elderly person in a care home. It can cost similar to look after a child at a specialist educational school. Operations and medicines can extremely expensive, just giving birth costs £7k! It costs £7k to educate a child in a state school. You can see how very few people are net contributors into the system and some place an extremely high burden on the system that will need very many contributors to cover. In this context it is very hard to balance the books without taxing people into oblivion and removing all incentive for people to do what's required to grow the economy. Who on earth chooses to work long, hard hours or risk everything starting a business if you know that you will be taxed so heavily if you succeed?

Did the Tories ever give up on the narrative that Labour spent all the money rather than it being the fault of the global financial crash?

At least the despicable Rwanda plan will be scrapped.

Chersfrozenface · 05/07/2024 12:28

Allthislovelygreen · 05/07/2024 12:25

I'm very nervous just because I'm not even sure what their manifesto was? Did they make any promises?

Don't think they even mentioned their NHS plan, as in, are they going to give the junior doctors the 35% pay rise?

No, they are not.

Sub-header from the Independent dated 26th June
"As junior doctors prepare to start another five-day strike on Thursday, Keir Starmer has used his strongest language yet to warn Labour will not meet their pay demands"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-junior-doctors-strike-nhs-pay-rise-b2569040.html

Starmer’s strongest warning yet to striking doctors: I won’t give 35% rise

Exclusive: As junior doctors prepare to start another five-day strike on Thursday, Keir Starmer has used his strongest language yet to warn Labour will not meet their pay demands

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-junior-doctors-strike-nhs-pay-rise-b2569040.html

Newsenmum · 05/07/2024 12:29

More NHS funding
Better sen provision and support. School support in general. More services for young people and the mental health crisis.

LumiB · 05/07/2024 12:30

jockeywilsonsaid · 05/07/2024 12:26

Did the Tories ever give up on the narrative that Labour spent all the money rather than it being the fault of the global financial crash?

At least the despicable Rwanda plan will be scrapped.

I actually csnt remember last time I heard anyone use thay excuse. Infact it'd more like the cost of the pandemic plus the Russian war has caused cost of living to increase for ebryone across the globe. Not just the UK. I don't think we would be in as bad a situation we are now if those two events hadn't have happened

jockeywilsonsaid · 05/07/2024 12:31

Allthislovelygreen · 05/07/2024 12:25

I'm very nervous just because I'm not even sure what their manifesto was? Did they make any promises?

Don't think they even mentioned their NHS plan, as in, are they going to give the junior doctors the 35% pay rise?

Are you not sure what their manifesto is because you haven't read it? There is a detailed section about their plan for the NHS.

Doodlebugbop · 05/07/2024 12:32

I didn't vote for them but I'm glad they won, I'm looking forward to being able to say I told you so when they fail.

However, I don't think any party holds all the answers, I voted for an independent knowing they wouldn't win but couldn't vote for any of the big two.

It's a bit like when you have a petulant child shouting at you demanding you hand over the toy you're holding, yelling at you that you're playing with it wrong and how they'll show you how to do it correctly.
You hand the toy over knowing they have no clue and watch their face as the realisation dawns that it's way too complicated for them.

I'm happy to be proven wrong and will vote for them next time if they do indeed change things for the better but I won't hold my breath.

Marvelo · 05/07/2024 12:33

I don't think they will change anything overnight- our problems our too deep-rooted for that.

I think they will pretty quickly improve our trading relationship with the EU.

FundingitallHow · 05/07/2024 12:33

John Mcdonal said expect public sector pay rise.

needsomewarmsunshine · 05/07/2024 12:33

Having lived through various govermnents since the early 70's, believe me they are all shit and self serving their own ends.
People are naive to believe any different. Give it a couple of years and we won't be able to get rid of them quick enough.
I'm seriously concerned about rights for women. It seems we are good enough to shag but otherwise need to shut up and and give our safe spaces away.
That can fuck right off. Can I say the f word on chat or is that reserved for aibu? Oh, who cares anyway.😁

StarDolphins · 05/07/2024 12:33

FundingitallHow · 05/07/2024 11:18

Nothing because the problems we have are global. I hope he will bring back initiative like sure start and the brown 250 for each child, lower uni fees and raise the tax threshold to benefit lower earners.
I hope he tackles the lack of ignorance around sen in school.
Unfortunately I think the problems we face need deeper and better thinking to tackle them and I've not got a single line during all the campaign to reassure me anything will change.
I don't think throwing money at the NHS will solve a single thing.
I don't think more teachers will do anything for education although of course it would help a little.
I think ordinary people will become increasingly disengaged and disenfranchised and lead to a possible reform victory in the next election.

Absolutely this from me too.

Jimblebells · 05/07/2024 12:34

jockeywilsonsaid · 05/07/2024 12:26

Did the Tories ever give up on the narrative that Labour spent all the money rather than it being the fault of the global financial crash?

At least the despicable Rwanda plan will be scrapped.

I quite like the Rwanda plan, a real deterrent to those considering whether to try crossing or not. What is there not to like? Nice weather etc. It is only for illegal immigrants, not those that's come through the correct channels. Thats only my opinion though.

Outliers · 05/07/2024 12:34

Nothing.

Maybe housing and the house of Lords.

StarDolphins · 05/07/2024 12:35

Newsenmum · 05/07/2024 12:29

More NHS funding
Better sen provision and support. School support in general. More services for young people and the mental health crisis.

No point chucking more millions at the NHS. It needs restructuring & accountability. Far too much money wasted already.