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One thing you're confident Labour can sort/change

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Toomuch44 · 05/07/2024 11:13

Have to admit, I've never voted labour (but did change my vote this time around), have lived in a very safe Tory seat (but now LibDem) for years. Totally accept we need a change.

If you voted labour or know a lot about politics, I'd be interested to know one thing you feel confident they can sort, do better on or bring in that will be beneficial. No arguments/criticisms of others please.

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Nancy1906 · 07/07/2024 17:11

limegreenheart · 07/07/2024 17:01

Abolish minimum income requirements for UK citizens sponsoring visas for non-citizen spouses. The Conservatives raised the threshold from £18,600 to £29,000 for 2024 - that's guaranteed income that the UK citizen spouse must have IN the UK, before they arrive from abroad and regardless of whether they are living with/supported by family. The foreign spouses are barred from receiving any benefits or public assistance anyway and will be thoroughly vetted before ever being given unlimited leave to remain (or eventually citizenship if they want it); why force families to split up while one partner gets reestablished in the UK?

I guess there is no immigration issue on agenda anymore.

Friend's husband married her to get UK citizenship, he has another wife back home whom he intends to bring here. Be had to rethink it all when the income threshold was raised. I hope he can bring her here and his 4 children.

CormorantStrikesBack · 07/07/2024 17:12

I tell you one thing im confident they can’t change…..they have pledged to “train thousands more midwives”.

im telling you midwifery training is at capacity now. There are often as many students as midwives on a shift so I have no idea how they can train more?

LlynTegid · 07/07/2024 17:13

I'm confident that they can improve employment protection, the only question being by how much.

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JurassicClark · 07/07/2024 17:21

Resolve the junior doctors pay dispute, reform the prison service and invest in the infrastructure of schools and colleges.

Which seems a damned good start after the venal buggers who have been in charge until now.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 07/07/2024 17:27

Kinsters · 05/07/2024 11:22

Maybe it's naive of me but I would hope that there would be a lot less corruption and scandal.

Although it’s only taken 48 hours for the old New Labour Cronyism to return…with Bliar, Kinnock and Brown back on the scene. I wonder how much the Tony Blair Institue for Global Change expects to make off the back of this Labour victory…

kirinm · 07/07/2024 17:35

@Tryingtokeepgoing where are you getting that from? 3 former Labour leaders speaking about a new Labour government doesn't equal croynism.

KnittedCardi · 07/07/2024 17:48

Astonished to think that pp's actually believe it would be cost effective for the government to build factories and manufacture its own drugs at cost. What do you even mean by "it's own drugs".

Off patent drugs are dirt cheap already and readily available worldwide. And the NHS, because of its purchasing power, already gets huge discounts from innovators on new drugs.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 08/07/2024 09:58

kirinm · 07/07/2024 17:35

@Tryingtokeepgoing where are you getting that from? 3 former Labour leaders speaking about a new Labour government doesn't equal croynism.

So Rachel Reeves now being part of his institute, within days of becoming Chancellor isn't something that smells a bit off? As I am pretty sure if it'd been one of Boris or Rishi's cabinet in an equivalent lobbying group then it would have been called corruption not cronyism...

Rachel Reeves (TBC) (institute.global)

Hot of the press mind you - they haven't even completed her bio yet...

I voted for Blair in '97 - he didn't get my vote second time round because I thought his modern version of the old boys network and jobs for those close to him was undemocratic. And is what's led to the modern distrust of politicians, resulting in a record low voter turnout

Back to the original question, I am sure the Labour Government will sort out the dispute with the junior doctors, but I worry they will do it by just throwing money at them. You don't get growth by throwing money at public sector pay - quite the reverse as it has to be funded by taking money from the private sector. You get growth from investment in infrastructure and encouraging/stimulating private sector activity

Rachel Reeves (TBC)

Chancellor of the exchequer

https://www.institute.global/experts/rachel-reeves

Tracker1234 · 08/07/2024 14:54

Lime|Green - are you joking??

Tryingtokeepgoing · 08/07/2024 15:57

Myblindsaredown · 07/07/2024 16:21

She was when corbyn was in. She was as hard left as they came.

I am not a fan of either, but if Farage is to be described as hard right I think it's right that Rayner is described as hard left. Stepping back, neither are as hard right or left in the great scheme of things when you look at recent-ish history. Politics as a whole has become more centre-ist, with both left and right playing to their respective galleries when it suits them, and then being offended when called out on it!

bergamotorange · 08/07/2024 22:10

Tryingtokeepgoing · 08/07/2024 15:57

I am not a fan of either, but if Farage is to be described as hard right I think it's right that Rayner is described as hard left. Stepping back, neither are as hard right or left in the great scheme of things when you look at recent-ish history. Politics as a whole has become more centre-ist, with both left and right playing to their respective galleries when it suits them, and then being offended when called out on it!

You don't understand what hard left is if you think Rayner is hard left!

BorgQueen · 09/07/2024 12:36

I agree with wiping out student loans for NHS, staff with 10+ years under their belt - For Teachers too. My DD has just started her 10th year and had worked her way up to HoD, she still owes £40k, having that gone would be massive for her.

TonTonMacoute · 09/07/2024 14:23

I don't think they will sort anything and most things will get worse.

This is not because I think they are any better or worse than the Tories, but globalisation means that big money, often foreign, rules the world now. National governments are powerless.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 09/07/2024 21:13

bergamotorange · 08/07/2024 22:10

You don't understand what hard left is if you think Rayner is hard left!

Perhaps you need to read my post more closely ;)

She’s as hard left as Farage is hard right - that is to say, not that hard. There are far more extreme positions at either end. As the French have discovered. But, nowadays anyone right of centre is described as ‘hard right’, where as on the left you can be far more to the left and not be called ‘hard left’. Which is illogical.

Nancy1906 · 29/07/2024 18:55

Here the come! This is what they'll sort out... they'll ensure pensioners put their heating on less so , and die in the freezing cold months... Bravo Labour 👏

Tryingtokeepgoing · 29/07/2024 20:05

Nancy1906 · 29/07/2024 18:55

Here the come! This is what they'll sort out... they'll ensure pensioners put their heating on less so , and die in the freezing cold months... Bravo Labour 👏

Don’t forget to add trashing the environment and caving in to the Unions to that 😂 The second of those was predictable, the first a bit of an eye opener!

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