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When did you *know* the Tories were over?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 02/07/2024 23:32

For me it was PM Liz Truss's "fiscal event".

I remember watching it aghast. I thought it would lay out Britain's post Brexit plan for growth. Turned out the Tory government didn't have one.

What was your turning point?

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PregnantWithHorrors · 04/07/2024 11:27

For me, it was pre Truss. I knew they weren't coming back from Partygate.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 04/07/2024 12:03

They were very damaged by Partygate. But when Triss took to the lectern and delivered her speech, it was clear that in 2022, 6 years after the referendum, the Tories had no post Brexit growth plan. None!

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Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 12:08

Melisha · 03/07/2024 00:32

Those talking about womens' rights are losing the plot.
Rape has been virtually decriminalised under current conservatives. If a man rapes a woman tonight, he knows the chance he will ever be convicted is absolutely tiny.
Women who are being abused and at risk of being killed will be turned away from a refuge tonight because their funding has been cut and there are not enough spaces.
Women will be sleeping in one room tonight with three kids in their temporary one room accommodation that they will have to live in for weeks or months.
Women tonight will be engaging in survival prostitution because the cost of living crisis has left them in dire poverty.
All of these situations have got much worse over the last 14 years. Or do these women not matter?

Exactly. There was a thread yesterday about a woman who’d had a failed chemical abortion who was now unable to find a clinic who would provide a surgical abortion for her.

This is abject oppression of women.

I’m GC and I voted Labour today. Actions speak louder than words.

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Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 12:08

Exactly. There was a thread yesterday about a woman who’d had a failed chemical abortion who was now unable to find a clinic who would provide a surgical abortion for her.

This is abject oppression of women.

I’m GC and I voted Labour today. Actions speak louder than words.

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You are anything but GC if you voted your rights away as a woman.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:11

And I don't think I saw Labour offering to fund more abortion clinics in their manifesto either....

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TooBigForMyBoots · 04/07/2024 12:12

@Hummingbird75, when did you realise the Tories would be toast come the GE?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 04/07/2024 12:15

I'll be glad to see the back of the Tories and their devastating anti-woman agenda.

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Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 12:57

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:10

You are anything but GC if you voted your rights away as a woman.

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Anyone who says that the Conservatives protect women’s rights and that’s why they are voting for them are either stupid or they’re lying.

HRTQueen · 04/07/2024 13:19

I think when the election was called there was no where for them to go even though they could have had another six months

They shall be back will have a few years of infighting but I never underestimate the power the Tories, hopefully Labour shall win at least two elections both with comfortable majorities

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:23

Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 12:57

Anyone who says that the Conservatives protect women’s rights and that’s why they are voting for them are either stupid or they’re lying.

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Really? In what way has Labour defined a woman exactly? What interest have they shown protecting our rights? They barely register our existence, and the contempt is palpable. If you think this is acceptable, that is on you, but don't expect anyone else to be in agreement!

HRTQueen · 04/07/2024 13:30

I think the Liz Truss disaster showed us how successfully the Tories can operate when the party membership (and some MP's) have made such a catastrophic mistake

To rid yourself of your party leader who is also the PM so quickly shows the Tory's will do anything to stay in power

Of course she should have never have been PM

Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 13:30

The current government only care about women who can afford to pay for private healthcare.

If you don't have your health you have nothing. It's quite simple, really.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:33

Emmanuelll · 04/07/2024 13:30

The current government only care about women who can afford to pay for private healthcare.

If you don't have your health you have nothing. It's quite simple, really.

Given women will no longer exist, thats 51% of the population dealt with.

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 04/07/2024 13:34

verdantverdure · 02/07/2024 23:50

Barnard Castle Rose Garden Bullshit Press Conference.

Where the Tories insulted the country's intelligence and treated us with contempt by telling the clearly ridiculous "eye test" lie.

Everyone sane knew it wasn't true,

But blindly loyal Tory supporters dutifully repeated in on forums and in the pub. Client journalists repeated it in print and on Loose Women etc, Tory MPs went on Breakfast TV and news programmes and repeated it.

Treating the country like mugs and taking the British people for fools was the beginning of the end.

There was no benefit of the doubt left when all the other lies came to light.

And we all remembered which posters, blokes down the pub, commentators, journalists and MPs had try to pull the wool over our eyes before.

Dead in the water from Barnard Castle on.

I agree.

The Barnard Castle lie showed how dumb they thought people were and how above the rules they thought they were.

The fact they got away with it spurred them on and reinforced their thinking.

Arguably the Brexit bus £350m was the real start of a shift in UK politics to the sense that the truth and a nuanced argument we're old fashioned, go big enough on the lie and enough people will buy it for you to get what you want & that's what matters.

TheNoonBell · 04/07/2024 13:37

11th May 2021 when the tories added vaccine passports to the NHS app.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 04/07/2024 14:04

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:33

Given women will no longer exist, thats 51% of the population dealt with.

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Women will continue to exist on Friday regardless of the result.

Seriously, who comes up with this shite? Worse than that, who actually falls for it?🙈

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Frith2013 · 04/07/2024 14:19

The national service debacle.

Just silly.

HauntedPollingBooth · 04/07/2024 15:08

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 13:33

Given women will no longer exist, thats 51% of the population dealt with.

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Oh, the drama!

XX biological woman here, who like many of us, does not agree with you.

I prioritise rape courts, healthcare, education, trade, the environment and the humane treatment of disabled people.

Usou · 04/07/2024 15:16

Two years after Maggie Thatcher"s big win, and companies that had been around for 00's of years were being decimated by 15% interest rates to "control inflation".

It was obvious by then that their economic management ability wasn't even up to O-level standard.

WindsurfingDreams · 04/07/2024 15:45

HauntedPollingBooth · 04/07/2024 15:08

Oh, the drama!

XX biological woman here, who like many of us, does not agree with you.

I prioritise rape courts, healthcare, education, trade, the environment and the humane treatment of disabled people.

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Same.

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 18:23

This messaging might be the final nail....! Grin

When did you *know* the Tories were over?
When did you *know* the Tories were over?
KatPurrson · 04/07/2024 20:44

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 18:23

This messaging might be the final nail....! Grin

Dust Spaffer and TitchyTetchy 🤮

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TooBigForMyBoots · 04/07/2024 22:14

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 18:23

This messaging might be the final nail....! Grin

Ah FFS, that photo needs a sensitivity warning. Put me right off my tea!🤢

Anyway, looks like the Tories have been made toast. Enjoy your evening lovely mnetters.🥂🍷

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Kovus · 04/07/2024 22:17

When we had all that rain and cold weather over the last few weeks.

Fightthepower · 05/07/2024 11:31

Interestingly they’ve just said John Curtice had commented that the Tories had lost this election a while back due to partygate and Trusterfuck economics and that the polling showed that they never won back the electorate after that (which is pretty much what lots of Mumsnetters have personally said!)