When did you *know* the Tories were over?

[TooBigForMyBoots]

For me it was PM Liz Truss's "fiscal event".

I remember watching it aghast. I thought it would lay out Britain's post Brexit plan for growth. Turned out the Tory government didn't have one.

What was your turning point?

Oh it is you again.

The election isn't even until tomorrow, are you suggesting it is rigged and we are the last to find out?

I'll have you know we spent most of a morning cobbling together developing that "fiscal event", as you put it.

Some of it, I'll admit, wasn't written down as it should have been, but that was because Kwasi had chewed the pointy end off the biro as he was 'feeling a bit queasy' about things.

I'd love to see them go, but I'm not getting my hopes up yet.

Liz truss. Once people's mortgages start to rocket whoever is in charge is toast. Plus she was incredibly odd.

I’ve just been reading through the comments on the Labour FB advertising and based on that I’m even less complacent, use your vote.

Boris final nail in his coffin - and Liz Truss being the replacement of choice.

Liz Truss. When she sacked Kwasi who was supposed to be her good mate the die was cast. The sheer speed of her downfall was undeniably catastrophic.
Partygate should have finished them but the faithful are used to tory scandals and sleaze so might well have been survivable but Truss hurt their pockets and made the country seem utterly mad. As if brexit hadn’t already made this clear enough.

I can't imagine any professional is going to stay in the UK if Labour win, it will be a hell hole of taxes and socialism and activism for years and years. There are so many other options, and already I can see anyone with choices and not stuck on benefits (like us) will relocate. I don't want my kids growing up around this defeatism and lack of ambition. Like a robot jammed on failure and decay.

Last time around Labour crashed the economy and we had to pay off their debts for years, will people never learn??

Sunak and Skygate but also the announcement of the election.

Rishi had to announce an.election before Xmas, I thought it might have been in September or October, but wasent hugely surprised it was July

Where are you going to go? Your party took us out of the EU.

The world wide crash wasn't down to Labour. Austerity was ideological and not an economic necessity.

Where are you going to go? Your party took us out of the EU.

Countries that want cheap professionals can be really sneaky and offer them citizenship.

Liz Truss. She put the whole industry I work in in temporarily jeopardy. I'll never vote tory until it's get the transformation needed.

You would never had had Liz Truss or Boris if the Tories hadn't (against all advice, by the way) become the Brexit party.

"I'm going to make it an offence to assault shop workers". Seriously?

This is also true. We have, largely, Dominic Cummings and Boris to thank for that.

Very true, they played to the rabid right and then were stuck there.

When Johnson failed to attend the first covid COBRA meetings. When he said “let the bodies pile up”. Partygate. Take your pick.

Off you trot then.
I am a high flying professional (private school kids and all) and I don't resent paying taxes because I know how much the state helped me when I really needed it (and we all use roads and libraries emergency services and we all benefit from environmental health teams and trading stands teams etc)

I had to go to a and e recently and I was horrified at what chaos it was, I hadn't been in probably 7 or 8 years and it was a sobering experience

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(forgot to add, I don't know any of my friendship group- all very successful professionals - who are planning on leaving the country, so I think you are just speaking for yourself @Hummingbird75 )

One can but dream ;-)

I think Liz Truss arriving

I want to say earlier like late Covid. But Covid was such an unusual thing I'm not sure any of the other parties could dealt with it any better. Maybe Labour would have stuck to the rules better I.e not have your health secretary kissing someone on a doorstep or party gate. But can't say for certain

Which planet are you on? Boris had no integrity and educated people realised that after he illegally prorogued parliament and the penny dropped for pretty much everyone after party gate (and that's before we forget he was far to busy "writing his book" to attend Cobra meetings) and got into all kinds of murky water over donations for his flat refurbishment and his "computer lessons" at the flat with a pole dancing pole, and I am pretty sure I could keep listing things for a lot longer but in all honesty I am just glad those days are over. He was an international embarrassment

When they got rid of Dominic Greive. Anyone with any morals or a shred of decency, hounded out.