Understanding Jay Slater case

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Can someone explain what is known about this.
My brief understanding (and I'm possibly wrong) is that he had a scuffle and stole a Rolex outside the party he attended. Then went back to an Airbnb with two British guys he didn't know. Stayed there a couple of hours then attempted to walk back to his accommodation. Had a couple of phone calls with friends that give no particular info. The British guys are not involved (seems odd that he was with them). And JS is still missing or possibly hiding/kidnapped. Who has the Rolex?
It all sounds very convoluted and a clear picture would obviously help people understand.

Yes, MN is exactly where to come to better "understand" the facts of this case.

Not just the youths - adults whose own children might just as easily find themselves in similar circumstances. The picking over every last detail, the ghoulish speculation, the conspiracy theories - it’s awful. Some people have become so immune to the fact that it’s real life and not just something on TV.

The police in Tenerife are well aware of the drug problems

a series of coincidenes like Elaine O'Hara over here

Just been on hols in Madeira and it made me realise how potentially dangerous the island is. Roads are built along precipices, locals totally unfazed and drive along at speed. Hiking trails also along steep
drops, many have died in last 20 years and in 4 cases bodies never found ( not ravers, just hikers/ trail runners).

If there's anything I have learnt from this case and the case of Nicola Bulley it's that if I or one of my loved ones went missing I'd be so reticent to appeal to the public, as the public seem to think you are then fair game and public property. They pore over you, and all your friends and families social media and deduce all sorts and the press and internet don't seem to have any qualms about writing things that just aren't true. It's terrifying and so black mirror horror. I would absolutely hate for DH or my DC to come under that amount of public scrutiny at a time where they are scared and worried.

It has made me lockdown my social media and really think about my online footprint.

Nothing like a sweeping statement🤣

We go 3-4 times a year, not a million miles from where this does happen, but because we’re old farts and no interested, it doesn’t touch our radar…like others have said, every area has its dark places, including your own town. It’s not nice, but it’s avoidable

I really hope they find him soon. I can't imagine what his parents are going through. I would have thought drones would have been more useful in that terrain but they didn't find Michael Mosley and he was out in the open in a much smaller area. Not as useful as I would have thought obviously.

Some of my family are Search & Rescue & sometimes it is literally this... dumb luck

I really believe it’s simply a case of misadventure and the lad will eventually be found deceased on the mountain - worst case scenario is that’s he never found

That’s interesting. I was watching a real murders programme yesterday. A woman murdered her ex-lover and attempted to murder his fiancé by mixing aconite ( found in Asia, not the winter aconite you get in the garden in Europe) into their food. The symptoms he suffered before he died had similarities to these drugs.
I used to tell my kids there was no need for them to spend money on drugs, I’d go out into the yard, shovel up some of the shit lying around, grind it up and they could eat that. Just as random as buying from any old dealer, might kill you, might not. They didn’t take up my offer, nor tried drugs.

Erm I’d expect him to appear remorseful? Not smirking and laughing.

I by no means think he deserves to die, it is not an eye for an eye. But let’s remember he has a shady past, so it is more likely he got himself into trouble. It’s still very sad, especially for his family who it seems now won’t be getting any answers.

Sorry you went through that, that kind of experience would colour my judgement too

And one very clever/curious off duty Garda.

It really does baffle the mind at how close someone can be to finding a missing person...quite literally in the physical sense and not spot them because of a quirk of nature.

Michael Mosely and rough terrain, Nicola Bulley and the river, the teens in North Wales where their car went straight off the road and down into the river with no sign of having left the road, the teens in South Wales whose car ended up in the middle of an incredibly busy Cardiff roundabout for literally days...again no sign of having left the road. I'm certain there are thousands of similar examples.

Whilst search teams and the police are undoubtedly talented and skilled, some of their success rate does fall into 'right place, right time, right conditions'.

And whilst this is all going on, there'll be family and friends beyond worried and trying to hold onto the tiniest hope that this will be one of those 'amazing survival' headlines like the chap in America last week that survived by collecting water in his boot to drink. Until confirmed as anything else, we should have compassion for anyone who is in this position rather than be on a witch hunt.

Just to repeat, the Rolex being mentioned in this case is a watch, not a euphemism for drugs. An eastern European man has alleged that his Rolex watch has been stolen. The police have not suggested that Slater is involved.

No it was a psychic.

Can you explain? I thought it was a dog walker.

There is no such thing.

We went about 20 years ago and used to go to a little cafe in the morning frequented by locals. There was always a chap sat on his own at a table facing the door surrounded by what can only be described as „heavies“. It was such a cliche. He looked like frank zappa. If he wasn’t dodgy I’ll plait fog.

to add even more to the cliche someone brought a baby in and he was very sweet with it.

Why are you lying? She was found by two dog walkers.

I thought Fieldsofgold1 was joking.

Whatever has happened to Jay Slater his parents must be out of their minds with worry. Some of the conspiracy theories are utterly bonkers. Only today I read that the Lucy friend was Shannon Mathews - it’s madness!

What I do know for a fact is there’s a specific person posting on his TikTok, Twitter and FB “solo searching”. This person has little to no professional experience of search and rescue and has earlier this year uploaded content from areas near to where we live. I have seen that content and where he was posting from pretending to be up mountains is absolute rubbish, where he took much of the footage is where we walk most days! He wasn’t anywhere near the summits of any of the mountains. He also pretended to be out searching for missing people when MR had already found those people and brought them down deceased. My DH is MR. It leaves a very bad taste in my mouth watching him upload content for views at such a harrowing time for this family. He’s shouting that MR need to go over to search for Jay, as if they’re not already out numerous times a week keeping people safe on our own mountains.

Personally, I don’t think he’ll ever be found and think there’s a lot more to this disappearance that no-one will every know.