Can the parents reach closure with this?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

Horrible tragedy but the driver was completely innocent having had an epileptic seizure with none previously occuring. The problem seems to be the parents can't accept this. Should they have been advised against not making a statement as it will probably exacerbate the huge guilt felt by the driver for no reason.

Grief needs to be channeled somewhere. The hardest thing to accept is that there is nothing that can be blamed other than just really unfortunate timing and a horribly tragic, unavoidable accident. How do you wrap your grief around that? Time.

Well there's a justice for Lily Facebook page up. They are saying on there they don't believe she did. Only had one non since. They can go months between each seizure. My daughter did the first 3 was about 6 months between each 1.

She would have had a brain scan and all medical checks. Epilepsy activity can show on the brain scan. If that's the case they will be put on meds straight away. Happened to someone in next A&E cubicle to DD. Went to A&E to visit his wife had seizure at reception so was witnessed by staff. Within a couple of hours he had a brain scan & put on meds told not allowed to drive.

Getting put on meds sooner will have more chance of getting them under control. My DD I kept being told they were febrile convulsions. She had her first at 6 then another 3 over 18 months. Now there's not many days she doesn't have a seizure.

It’s not some sick competition.
They have been ruined in different ways.

Said tonight on the news at 10.

I'd she'd had seizures before, presumably it would be on her medical record (would anyone have a seizure for the first time and not seen their GP?)

So many people on social media questioning it
Yet you see in the news people having heart attacks and crashing on the motorway etc and nobody questions that

I had a seizure after a head injury, never had one before. 3 months later I had another out of the blue and then had a few more after that
Luckily I get a warning so it was always enough for me to get myself to the ground

It could happen to anyone, even a faint, or stroke or heart attack when they're driving and it's pot luck whether you hit the brake or accelerate

I doubt it unless she was having absenses and didn't connect it with epilepsy. Or if she's had nocturnal ones in her sleep she would be non the wiser unless she's injured herself.

My old next door neighbour had a neice. She had started having seizures put on meds but carried on driving. She crashed luckily nobody else was involved. But I've no sympathy at all when she puts a memorial post on Facebook. Family knew she was still driving. Her partner tried to stop her but didn't report to DVLA. I would be hiding their keys and getting straight on the phone. She was selfish and paid for it with her life.

What? 'advised against making a statement'? Why? I would think the parents have the right to say whatever they feel like saying. They probably know more than any of us do anyway.
In any case it's beggar's belief there was only a flimsy wooden fence between the bend in the road and the school grounds.

Anger is a stage of grief. I agree that it was a terrible tragedy and it doesn't sound like the poor woman was at fault - she's also got to live with this which must be so hard. I feel for the parent's and hope that in time they will be able to let go of the anger. You don't get closure or ever get over losing a child, you just learn to live with it. The sadness and loss never really leave you 💔

I lost my 22 year old son in May 2022 in an accident when he was hit by a car (also a Land Rover so my heart sank a bit when I read that) obviously the driver was investigated but there was nothing criminal and the inquest happened about a year later. Completely different circumstances I know but I think it's normal to want to blame someone when accidents happen and there really isn't any closure ever. I tell myself that my son and the driver are both victims in this and my heart hurts for the person that has to live the rest of their life knowing that someone died. I obviously have to live the rest of my life without my beautiful son and there are really no winners in these situations. My heart goes out to everyone involved in that story, it's just so awful

@Ihopeithinkiknow I am so very sorry.

If it's taken so long to get the evidence, one wonders why? The driver was clearly wealthy. If i was the parents i'd be wondering how legitimate the evidence was. Especially considering how little information was shared with them during the process.

This was my feeling too. And the statement from the driver was so cold and to my mind unfeeling - though I expect it was the wording of several lawyers. White woman in ££££ vehicle crashes into school killing two, outcome is that it’s a never-before experienced epileptic fit that she has no recollection of at all. It may be a legitimate and tragic accident but the optics make me suspicious.

Tragedy none can ever recover from , inc driver.
We live in a very small, narrow, short, road with a ( private ) school
at the end, only 1 car can pass.
I know this driver had a seizure but the drivers that hurtle down our street the fastest of all by a mile are all Defender/Vogue/Sport drivers. Not the battered type, shiny, latest model.
It's literally a certain type of person driving it where we live.
They also block corners, dropped kerbs, crossings daily.
Ever since this sad case I've become hyper aware and actually scared of them, no other car make seems to go with this consistant behaviour.
It's the strangest phenomenon to observe daily and I find it inexplicable.

Agree about the fence. When I first saw the pictures I wondered from a security perspective, how and why a school just had a wooden fence between it and the road. I would have thought that after dunblaine etx, there would be strict rules about school security. Certainly where I live the schools seem much more secure than this.

White woman in ££££ vehicle crashes into school killing two, outcome is that it’s a never-before experienced epileptic fit that she has no recollection of at all

Why is her race relevant?

This explains why the investigation has taken so long - not everything is a whitewash

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgy8nm84gyo

I heard Lily's parents on the radio a few months ago and the fact that the investigation has gone on so long with no conclusion has added to the hurt. There is some suggestion that the driver is someone untouchable like a diplomat. With the lies and corruption in this country who know if the seizure is not just a lie.

Can you not understand why it might take time to verify all the details? To investigate the driver, get access to medical records, be sure that they check that the driver was aware of any health issues that might have led to seizures etc. Of course they want to be sure of everything and that might take time. The driver will have had to live with that uncertainty too,

As for not sharing details or even the outcome of investigations with the families of victims, I would have thought that standard in most investigations, regardless of the 'wealth' of the person being investigated

Because the justice system is biased against non-white people, and the media can be too. I’d bet my house that the response we’ve seen wouldn’t be the same if the driver was a black male in his twenties driving a Fiesta.

@Ihopeithinkiknow …am so sorry to read this.X edited for spelling mistake

No they wouldnt be the same, it would be full of 'thats racist' to pour any doubt on what happened or the outcome.

So her previous seizures definitely occurred and would have been on her medical record. So totally different from this case.

She should be charged.

With what?

This baffles me - surely it is easier to believe somebody had an epileptic fit than that they deliberately plowed into a crowd of people.