Unpopular opinion

[NotADailyMailJournalist]

I'll go first.

You shouldn't have a dog or a baby (or anything else noisy) unless you live in a fully detached property.

Only 14.5 years until I qualify to live in a retirement flat here (major city in Scotland). Can't. Wait. I actually expect there will be a lot of MNetters there. Lots of us on here appear to be autistic and/or misophonic.

@IntelligentInputDarling no but I will allow you to have a cat. An elderly one from a rescue.

"You shouldn't have a dog or a baby (or anything else noisy) unless you live in a fully detached property."

So, basically, what you're advocating is social cleansing. Only people wealthy enough to afford a detached property can procreate.
And as those wealthy people procreate, the poor, which in the majority includes most ethnically diverse, disabled, etc, will gradually be cleansed out of existence.

This^

I have a dog and a baby. I live in a terrace. My dog is trained not to bark and we ensure he's occupied when we're at work. Our baby makes normal human noise, like every human being including op has made at some point.

The older couple who live alone with no pets on the other side of us sound like your dream neighbours op. Except they both love to scream and shout at each other as often as possible. Often waking my baby.

I understand noise intolerance but you've no empathy either by the sounds of things. Why don't YOU move to a lovely detatched house in the country since its so easy?

@NightPuffins that's what lawyers call an oblique intention. It's not my actual intention (my actual intention is to avoid antisocial noise) but I appreciate it could be a side-effect. Although, people who live in caravans could have babies and still fit my criteria.

I do live in a detached property with two wonerful doggos.
Dogs are just the best, sorry you don't feel like that about them.

Babies are pretty nice as well.

It sounds as if those who can cope with noise are the ones who need detached houses. Probably worth starting to look for one for yourself if it's picking away at your sanity.

They don't stay babies long.

Be careful what you wish for. My Grandma’s was absolutely awful. The problem with elderly neighbours is there’s a chance they’re hard of hearing and they’ll be home a lot more so the TV/radio will be on full blast, all the time. I actually can’t hear my neighbours at all in my mid terrace unless they’re in the garden or having a full on rager, which one side does about twice a year and only ever on a Sat night so no issues there.

Why would an antinatalist choose to use a parenting website?

I live in a terraced house. I hardly ever hear my neighbours. They have a baby, a toddler and a dog.

I used to be a sleep-in carer for a client in a detached property. Their neighbours (houses were detached but gardens neighboured) on one side had frequent very loud parties until 2am. Including crying children, loud music and drunken singing. The other side had dogs that were allowed outside to bark to their hearts content every 2-3 hours overnight.

I know which house I prefer.

@gamerchick I may have to. But I'm trapped until my (terminally ill) geriatric cat dies. I can't move whilst she's still here, it would traumatise her, being suddenly in a new home with all new smells etc.

It's a PITA because currently I'm on track to be financially able to retire at 50 if I decide to. Moving to a more expensive property will delay that and I'm otherwise happy here, location wise, space-wise.

Christ. Maybe a one way ticket to Switzerland is the only hope for me then! I mean I was always planning it at some point but maybe I'll bring forward my plans!

😴

Just joining to make sure I get the deletion message.

OP, it was actually a genuine question. But clearly you just want a bit of argy bargy, rather than discussion, so I'll leave you to it. 🤷

You do realize that when you have moved in 14 years time, the people you will be living next to will probably have grandchildren who will visit them?

I once sold my detached house because of noisy neighbours, it wasn't far enough apart!

It's a question that's been asked literally thousands of times before on MN so do forgive my yawning. There are a million things to discuss in life (and on MN) except your darling precious offspring. Indeed, there's a specific board for religion and philosophy where intelligent discussion about things which are actually important take place.

Is your username ironic @NotADailyMailJournalist?

Are you saying children aren't important?

You sound very bitter.

Wow!

Most people who are child free on here are respectful of the fact this is, at it's core, a parenting website.
By parents, for parents.

I've reported your post

You are clearly very sad, very lonely and very desperate for attention OP.

No individual human (of any age) is important no.

The human race itself? Also of no importance to the universe actually. And I think a negative thing rather than a positive.

If I could press a button and not exist/have never been born then I would do it 100%. I'm quite clumsy though so I have never proceeded to unalive myself as doubtless I'd misjudge it and end up propped in a chair with a feeding tube. I'm watching with interest the law changes in other parts of the world though re assisted dying.

Not going down very well is it lol