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Thread 50 Sunak: Civil war, what civil war?

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DuncinToffee · 19/06/2024 18:36

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Notonthestairs · 24/06/2024 16:19

So many terrible experiences. You can really see just from the last couple of pages why people put off for going for medical attention - whether that's primary or secondary care. That has to have an impact on not only the treatment they eventually need but also on families needing to advocate for them.

There was a survey in 2022 which showed high levels of burnout across the NHS workforce - particularly for staff in ambulances. Obviously that has an impact on retention of experienced staff. An almighty mess.

prettybird · 24/06/2024 16:19

I've had really good experiences recently of the NHS: ds' girlfriend seen within an hour at A&E a few weeks ago (late afternoon, A&E wasn't crowded and was clean), getting an (in person) GP appointment the following day, dh getting his hip replaced on Friday (in and out in just under 12 hours Shock), dh and I both signed up with and were seen by a local NHS dentist a couple of months ago. The only slight problem dh has encountered was getting the appointment with the nurse to change the dressing on his thigh this Friday, but the GP practice arranged instead for the treatment room at a health centre to do it. Plus he's arranged a telephone call with his GP next Monday (GP is off this week).

I'm in Scotland though so maybe that's the difference Wink despite what Labour & the Conservatives say about our health service Hmm

prettybird · 24/06/2024 16:21

Not saying it's perfect though.

FlowersFlowersFlowers to those who've shared their distressing experiences Sad It shouldn't be like that SadAngry

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NoDishiForRishi · 24/06/2024 16:36

Not a recent experience, it was 9 years ago now but when I lost my eldest daughter I had horrendous post partum complications, retained products, haemorrhages and infection and was in and out of A and E and the gynae ward for about 16 weeks all told.

During that time I cannot fault the kindness and the love that was shown to us by the staff, in particular the nurses who were just wonderful, they sat with me as I cried, let my husband stay with me that first awful night (we had a side room), made sure he ate something and didn't have to worry about parking charges. Little things that meant so much.

When we found out we were having our youngest I distinctly remember one of them coming up to us when we went for our first scan and hugging us both saying how happy she was to see us again and how she remembered us and our daughter.

For those nurses, for that time, I will always value the NHS. I so hope that things are about to get better for them.

countrygirl99 · 24/06/2024 16:53

Saucery · 24/06/2024 16:15

A couple of older relatives have been admitted to A and E recently, sent there by their GPs as emergencies. 36 hours on a trolley is the record so far. They say the HCPs are spread so thinly but doing their utmost to help everyone. Many are locums/agency staff (have this from another source) which is costing an absolute bloody fortune. Everyone is walking a tightrope to keep people alive, that’s not an exaggeration. There has to be a better way and it starts with funding, but that funding needs to be applied differently to the way it currently is I.e. a stable workforce that you aren’t paying Agency rates for!
We have a ‘Virtual Ward’ scheme operating and it works extremely well to keep people from returning to A and E unless their condition worsens unavoidably.

MIL was on a virtual ward scheme the last few weeks before she died. It worked well for her. All they could so was treat her symptoms and she got very distressed in hospital away from her usual care home routines as she was unable to talk, reading write after a stroke.

IClaudine · 24/06/2024 17:00

I am so sorry for all the difficult experiences posted hereFlowers

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Saucery · 24/06/2024 17:41

So they came to the nursing home @countrygirl99 ? That’s just what many people need, particularly at end of life Flowers. We were very impressed by the different HCPs sent for mobile ECG etc, it all worked very well and we didn’t feel fobbed off at any point.

countrygirl99 · 24/06/2024 17:49

@saucery yes. Her care was managed by a hospital team and HCPs came to the care home as needed for treatment or monitoring.

Saucery · 24/06/2024 18:13

Yet another leaflet from the Tory MP for my area! We are truly blessed!
This time he’s going all out to catch the Flag Shagger and NIMBY votes.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 18:16

Have to say I was extremely lucky when I was admitted a couple of months ago. I can’t really fault the care.

Actually lucky is the wrong word. It should be standard.

prettybird · 24/06/2024 18:18

@RafaistheKingofClay : spot on. Good care should be the norm, what should be expected.

Lottelenya · 24/06/2024 18:34

What I can’t understand is the fact that although the wards at our hospital are short staffed and struggling to manage there are very few junior nurse vacancies advertised. My friend’s daughter is not training locally but is desperate to get a job there and at the moment there is nothing. Our unit lost 60 staff post Covid and took on a large number of Indian and Nigerian nurses who I believe have to work for the NHS for so many years so we’ve had very few staff leave. This may be why as a whole the trust doesn’t need staff on paper (although in reality it does).

tobee · 24/06/2024 18:38

NoDishiForRishi · 24/06/2024 16:36

Not a recent experience, it was 9 years ago now but when I lost my eldest daughter I had horrendous post partum complications, retained products, haemorrhages and infection and was in and out of A and E and the gynae ward for about 16 weeks all told.

During that time I cannot fault the kindness and the love that was shown to us by the staff, in particular the nurses who were just wonderful, they sat with me as I cried, let my husband stay with me that first awful night (we had a side room), made sure he ate something and didn't have to worry about parking charges. Little things that meant so much.

When we found out we were having our youngest I distinctly remember one of them coming up to us when we went for our first scan and hugging us both saying how happy she was to see us again and how she remembered us and our daughter.

For those nurses, for that time, I will always value the NHS. I so hope that things are about to get better for them.

Similarly when my second dd was stillborn in 1997. And my consultant I'd had then phoned me up at home when I was pregnant with ds in 1999; to further allay my fears. I had fabulous care from everyone in 1997 and 1999 and I remember the faces and names of the staff today.

tobee · 24/06/2024 18:38

I know that was a long time ago but I love the NHS.

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 18:48

I am confused

Is there a Communist Party of Greta Britain and a Communist Party of Britain.

Obviously this would be the ultimate expectation of Communist in fighting.

IClaudine · 24/06/2024 18:51

I have made a horrible, horrible discovery.

The Reform candidate for my area lives about 15 minutes walk from my house. 🙀 🙀🙀

CassieMaddox · 24/06/2024 18:52

IClaudine · 24/06/2024 18:51

I have made a horrible, horrible discovery.

The Reform candidate for my area lives about 15 minutes walk from my house. 🙀 🙀🙀

😵

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 18:53

Paula Vennells lives abut 10 mins form me, if that helps...?

Right near Sharon off EastEnders.

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 18:56

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 18:48

I am confused

Is there a Communist Party of Greta Britain and a Communist Party of Britain.

Obviously this would be the ultimate expectation of Communist in fighting.

I think it might be more confusing than that.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Britain

IClaudine · 24/06/2024 18:58

Piggywaspushed · 24/06/2024 18:53

Paula Vennells lives abut 10 mins form me, if that helps...?

Right near Sharon off EastEnders.

Yeah, that's not good either!

Saucery · 24/06/2024 19:01

I can’t find much out about the Reform candidate, except he lives in another constituency, even further away than the Tory MP. The latter, DS informs me, was canvassing just down the road today, which made me quite mad, as he has never bothered his arse to come here in 20+ years. The closest he got was several elections ago, when a friend of his with a very expensive SUV drove slowly through town shouting his name through a loudhailer.
Amusingly, the picture on his Twix shows him pointing at a sign, all alone, while the Labour candidate is always surrounded by lots of people looking genuinely happy she’s there Grin

pointythings · 24/06/2024 19:02

RafaistheKingofClay · 24/06/2024 18:56

I think it might be more confusing than that.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Britain

But what about the People's Front of Judea?