Thread 50 Sunak: Civil war, what civil war?

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Just over 2 weeks to go

And I think it is an area where personal experience matters. You carry it with you.

But then I'd also like to match ministers to their actual work experience.

Farage has long been opposed to postal votes - despite the dearth of evidence of wide scale fraud. I fully expect him to bring it up again.

Hope you are OK tara

"8 years ago today, I proudly voted for Brexit.

While we delivered on the will of the people, Keir Starmer tried to reverse your vote.

That’s the difference between us."

Sunak on Twitter this morning.
Not convinced this will pan out as he expect given the shift in perspective.

And of course no mention of those Brexit benefits.

I did not like Farron at all. They seem to have moved further left under Davey which is fine by me!

Oh, that explains why SNP is on 0%!

I'd actually love Sir KS to read this thread and see so many of us we are voting Labour but.... if he could see how much of his votes are lent to him by people who actually feel Labour is no longer their political or moral home.

I actually feel quite sad, even though I know it's pragmatism.

That was definitely food for thought.

Here's mine - not really a surprise to me. I only did the short one

I think I'm a bit more centrist or even right than lots of ppl on this thread so maybe it shows that Labour have in fact moved to the right

I didn't select quite a lot of policies because I don't think we have the money

I ignored the money like Claudine and just went for the policies that chime most with me. Obviously on 4 July saying “never mind the money” isn’t a luxury we have.

75% Conservative and 25% Reform for me.

ONLY KIDDING!!!

Actually it was 2/3 Labour and 1/3 Green. That's fine of course but I was expecting some Plaid in the mix.

Farage pulled out of BBC interview at the last.

Certainly chimes with my theory that he has to damp down the popularity a bit.

He knew he was going to get hammered on his bollocks about the West inciting Russia into war. Frit.

Good to see this article on social care on the BBC home page

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c511ew07jwgo

"He knew he was going to get hammered on his bollocks about the West inciting Russia into war. Frit."

Yep.

DS (20) on the short version came out as Labour with Green and Lib Dem.

When he did the long version (I think he took out the ones he already did) he came out 100% Lib Dem!

He's going to vote Labour though.

I believed you for a minute....

I was thinking the same.

I'm not a hard core Labour voter (I swing) but will vote Labour this time around. But he needs to understand the smaller parties are only not getting votes through tactics and that may change in the future (if we can keep the Tory's out!)

Sorry I've clearly missed the post but where are you doing the survey?

Yeah I'm more centrist than many which is why I thought I'd get Labour. 🤔

Baby steps. I see my Labour vote this time as a stepping stone. Come the next election I might reconsider but right now it’s about the art of the possible.

Which is perfect. Might put off a few people.

Remember - not only does he not need to win. He doesn't want to win. Because he can then peddle the "it's so unfair, they are all against me us that is his stock in trade,". He has managed superbly these past few years without ever having to get any electoral support whatsoever. Why change a winning formula ?

In a way, he's already taken a couple of wrecking balls to the concept of democracy and triggered a series of events which led to two - not one, but two - unelected Prime Ministers and an unelected Foreign Secretary.

If I were Putin I would note that the further Farage is from power, the more damage he does. He'd be a fool not to use that to his advantage.

It's all gone a bit le Carré 😀

So maybe we should hope Farage wins Clacton? He will do nothing for his constituents and hopefully will be shown up in Parliament.

Did the long form and results pretty much the same (66% Labour, the rest split between Green and Lib Dem’s). I’ll admit that despite being in Wales I ignored the obviously Plaid policies (no issue with them but wanted to see how I stood with the main parties). I suspect I disagreed with Labour on Immigration and Welfare ( two child cap). I suspect I was a bit more pragmatic on a few other policies too.

Pretended I was in England and did the short survey which gave me 1/3, 1/3 and 1/3 LibDem/Labour/Green. Not unexpected