19 year old missing.

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I haven't seen any posts on this although I may have missed it.

A 19 year old boy has gone missing while on holiday with friends in Tenerife. No phone battery and has not been heard from since 8am yesterday.

I cannot stop thinking about him and his family. I have a son the same age who was due to go abroad with his friends for the first time last week but plans were cancelled last minute and now I feel like I never want him to go anywhere!

I'm not sure the point in me posting this as no one will know what has happened, I guess I just can't help thinking what if he was my son?

I am praying he is okay. My heart absolutely breaks for his Mum who has traveled there this morning.

Personally I don't think it's super appropriate for anyone to be slagging this guy off (he's missing and his family might see this) but it's not because of his class. It's because he's a criminal.

People, including working classes, don't like violent criminals and it's not selling out your own kind unless you associate being working class with being a violent thug.

"A young man is missing. In whatever circumstances missing this is not the place for that sort of discussion
and language. You be ashamed"

Why would I be ashamed @socks1107? I agree that when a fellow human being is missing is not the time to stick the book in and take pleasure in the idea of someone else's suffering. That was kinda the whole point in my original post. People have dehumanised this lad and his family with words like chavs to the point that there is zero empathy for the suffering of a family and the fact that there was probably a teenager lying alone dead somewhere.

"Yes, it's cheap, you know that, I know that but if you're brought in an environment where you don't see travel insurance being bought you won't think to buy it. They don't go without because they don't have a tenner for a week in the sun, its not on their radar"

@BarcardiWithGadaffia yes I'm well aware of that. It was a general comment about the impact of having/not having insurance? I was sharing personal experience of a very difficult time, what's the issue?

"I'm not reading your angry reply and instead will assume that youre that kind of mother of a certain kind of son. "

Well @BeefBrisket if you aren't reading my post then don't bother replying to it 😆 I've been in and out all day...even us chavs do activities and lessons with our children you know! I would suggest maybe you need to get out a bit instead of replying pointlessly to posts you haven't read.

I don't know what you mean, my son is the sweetest little boy you could meet, well behaved and kind. He won't be getting his own machete till his 10th birthday though so don't worry.

Yes so being posh doesn’t stop people speculating

Oh good you, maybe you took my advice and went for a breather. No idea why you cared so much about my initial comment but ok.

Good of you to reply @BeefBrisket ..did you bother to read the post you were replying to this time, or are you still pointlessly pissing your weekend away?
Also I think you missed @DontBiteTheCat post? She was asking for clarification on your vile post earlier.

Give it a rest, take that great big chip off your shoulder & go enjoy the rest of your weekend with your little darling.

And you jumped on it in an angry uncalled
for post with disgusting language.

I've had to block myself from Tattle, the third thread on this is romping along and I'm in danger of getting obsessed 😳 Supporters' helpful ideas from social media are ... impressive?

This was supposed to be a thread about a missing person. What is wrong with people?

I think my days on Mumsnet are coming to an end. It's so depressing.

"Give it a rest, take that great big chip off your shoulder & go enjoy the rest of your weekend with your little darling."

Lmao I've hit a nerve with a load of you on here haven't I 😆 what chip? I'm replying to people who have been tagging me so no, I won't be chased off just because I made people on here face their despicable behaviour and they're uncomfortable.
My darlings are with their auntie so I have plenty of time to waste this evening. If you don't want to see my posts then I'm not sure why you're tagging me back to the thread by responding to a post that wasn't even addressed to you @Yampy

"And you jumped on it in an angry uncalled
for post with disgusting language."

I responded in kind to certain posts and you're posting with the exact same tone so tbh you stink of hypocrisy. But feel free to report my "disgusting language" @socks1107 don't forget to pick up on the posters who were revelling in the opportunity to dehumanise this teenager and his family though.. or is your only issue with the person calling that out 🤔

Not at all. I have reported the whole thread as distasteful.
Regardless of class, where he lives he's missing and almost certainly dead following some poor choices and decisions that young people can often make. It doesn't need to descend into sweating and shouting by using capital letters. Many people will have lived this young man and will be worried.

Which was the point @socks1107 that I thought it was awful that so many posters, across several threads were taking so much pleasure in mocking them. You may have reported the whole thread (hopefully many people have. And hopefully MN pull their fingers out and put a stop to it all) but you chose to respond to one of the few posters in a sea of shit who was calling it out for what it was. The thread had already gone down the pan, it wasn't a thread of concern for the lost teen I wasn't derailing a thread of support for the family. I was commenting on a thread that had already turned into a massive spectacle.

What3words is not a great idea, and it's certainly not necessary.

First, it's run by a private company. It's free for individuals, but companies and governments have to pay money to make professional use of it.

Second, the technology is secret. Nobody knows how to get from the words to actual GPS coordinates. If the company ever goes bust, millions of references to places will no longer work.

Third, it's language-specific. You can say your coordinates are "rice.pudding.cinnamon" to a Spanish emergency operator and it won't help, because in their version it's "tortilla.maracas.pueblo" or whatever.

Fourth, everyone has WhatsApp on their phone and you can send your WhatsApp location to anyone by simply clicking the paperclip and choosing "Location". They click on it and it comes up in Google Maps. This is about 10 times less effort that finding someone to send your What3Words data to.

Fifth, if you make an emergency call in the UK or EU, your GPS coordinates are sent to the operator automatically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Mobile_Location

He will be found on the mountain today.

Alive or dead?

Is that you Mystic Meg?

I hope you're right though. And it would, of course, be wonderful if he was alive, but that's vanishingly unlikely after all this time. His poor mum🙁

This thread absolutely is about class and looking down on people. It's very much about the deserving and undeserving of compassion.

Whatever he did, he is still that woman's son and is a human being that has gone missing and is probably dead. He could have died of dehydration or fell and broke his legs and died a slow death.

I can only imagine the difference in outpouring if it was a nice middle class kid.

This thread doesn't paint MN in a good light at all, you've let slip and your predjuces are showing. Again.

I'm not so sure. A nice middle class boy who had previously seriously assaulted someone and more than likely involved in drugs probably wouldn't have got much sympathy either.

It's not about class unless you think working class people are all violent criminals.

How many celebrities have fallen out of favour because of their behaviour? Their money and status didn't help them, clearly.

It's too soon for people to be posting karma and whatnot but people are fed up of these kids People are fed up of stabbing, muggings. Meanwhile others are going out of their way to defend his behaviour rather than acknowledge it (he was just a kid, brain not formed, the victim was bad) and that, equally, provokes a response.

"It's not about class unless you think working class people are all violent criminals. "

Oh give it a rest. You know very well that that's not what @TikiTikiBoo was saying at all. It's so obvious she didn't think that from the context of her post and the fact that she was lamenting the classist attitude on here. God the disingenuousness of posters on here is so annoying.

This thread absolutely is about class and looking down on people. It's very much about the deserving and undeserving of compassion

You've got a point with the second sentence, but maybe not with the first unless you believe scumbags come exclusively from the working classes?

They most certainly don't, and personally I'd make exactly the same remarks were this some aristo's son - in fact more so, because it's reasonable to suppose they'd have had more opportunities

According to the nutters on Facebook, the ransom deadline is 9am tomorrow, which is when he'll reappear