Thread 2 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Following on from thread 1, linked below.

Let's hope the CCTV / sighting in town gives a glimmer of home that he made the walk from the beach to town ok.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5090880-michael-moseley-missing-after-disappearing-on-holiday-walk?page=10&reply=135846185

Yes I would want to too - but being alive and well now I wouldn’t tell my husband to do that! I’d tell him to keep himself safe! It’s like saying if he house is on fire please put your life at risk and come and save me!

They'd have known they were in the wrong place if they'd have looked at cctv thur morning not Fri afternoon! I'm not an armchair expert but in a tiny place with few cameras that is surely the first thing you do.

I agree about the cctv response. They knew where he left and knew where he was heading so it would’ve been easy enough to ask the places that did have cctv along that rough route if they picked up anything. 2 days were wasted because they didn’t.

Good grief. This is abnormal.

the first thing you do is start searching whilst simultaneously trying to get hold of all the potential cctv. It was a restaurants, so they need to find the owner, who may not even have been on the island at that point , and access.

Looking at cctv so quickly is not something that happens in the vast amount of missing people in the uk. The idea that someone goes missing and you go straight away to find all the cctv straight away, obtain it, review it so quickly is the stuff of police dramas. They need to get the cctv first, look through loads that won’t even have them on and then some like the one released where you can barely see them and they’re walking by quickly so might be missed at first and you just don’t do that on the first day regardless for most cases.

He is walking at a fair old clip in the most recent video - for normal conditions let alone such heat.

As a fellow hiker, I would say his socks and footwear aren't suitable at all for a challenging walk in great heat on rocky, rugged terrain (tho fine for the initial walk back to Pedi. )

The umbrella is a great idea on the flat but would become an incredible encumbrance if kept open when trying to negotiate steep rocky scrambly sections. He could use it as a walking stick but then he loses the heat protection obviously.

Still hoping against hope he will be found alive. There are instances of people who have survived against great odds. I do hope he is one of them.

I also believe they could have be better regarding the cctv to pinpoint where to search.

If you look back at the news articles from day one, they all say

"Ita strange that he could go missing on the walk between the beach and pedi, because it's such a straight walk". And it said that is the area where people are searching for him

That reminds me that DH used to go dog walking in the local forest near us. I've just googled it and it is only 95 hectares. Halfway through he found two very distressed young women who had become hopelessly lost. he led them back to the carpark and then drove them home because they had entered the forest at a different point and had become completely disoriented. They were both nurses in their 30s as I recall. And this was in the UK with generally pretty good mobile coverage but a mobile blackspot inside the area they actually were.

Hikers etc, wouldn’t you double back to town if terrain got very rocky & you were ill equipped?

Im sure they looked at CCTV as soon as they could , like a pp said it can take a while to locate owners and trawl through hours of footage. If anyone had seen him, then I'd hope by now they would have come forward , not everyone watches the news though so someone who has got information may not even realise that they need to come forward.

BBC News - 'We will not lose hope' says Michael Mosley's wife
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0ddpwwrp3no

As already stated you have absolutely no,idea when they saw the footage and what has happened behind the scenes.
Just because they were only released to the news later on Friday doesn't mean that was when they were actually handed in, verified and followed up.

You seem to think that everything is realised to the media at the exact time it's seen by the police and rescue teams. There could be several hours between those events,

Likewise, there will also be lots going in that you have no,idea about, right now, and which may never be released to the media for you to see, or which may only be released much later on.

It's really important that people realise that they only actually know what the police and rescue, and then the media after that, have chosen to let you see and at what time. You don't have the full picture at all!

As I mentioned before about a local,search - due to being on the exact location it happened at the time I know for certain that a lot of things were said and done that were never released to the media, so from the average news reading public's pov it looked like there were gaps and missed information but in reality there wasn't.

What do you think they should have done, sat around doing nothing until they had the CCTV?
PPs have explained that CCTV is not an instant thing and lots of footage had to be checked.
I would prefer that people were out searching straight away, than waiting until they definitely knew the "right place" to be searching. They knew he had walked that bit to Pedi for sure, it makes total sense to start there.

They might not have known he was carrying an umbrella which makes him pretty distinctive. It was really early on that his wife was shown CCTV that wasn't him so clearly they were looking for him on CCTV but perhaps not with full information that helped to identify him.

The public were only told about the umbrella when the woman working at the beachside restaurant came forward. Who knows whether his wife and friends knew he was carrying it. All these clues need to be pieced together - it doesn't necessarily mean that mistakes are being made.

Oh I’m so glad you came along to lend weight to the cctv issue. You must have access to more detail than us. So are you informing millions of people you know they dawdled, and it wasn’t that the cctv belong to a restaurant,which was possibly closed at the time, and they needed to find the owner and gain access?

please enlighten us all.

They would have been! Like it or not these things take time. They have to follow the leads they can't just search every cm of the island in one go.

Why be so nasty?

I didn't say anything controversial.

Youre being nasty for no reason at all.

Why not just state your point, instead of attacking others

Bloody hell, just seen pictures in the Sun of the route that rescuers think he might have taken. I'm surprised that anyone would walk that way alone, in the heat, in a foreign country, without being 100% where they were going. Definitely very easy to get lost 😞

I don't know how low helicopters can fly but I think they've got the best chance of spotting him there. Must be very difficult to find him from the ground.

I feel like drone technology and AI will make searches like this much easier in the years to come.

They searched there as why not? They didn't know where else he'd been!

Jeez

Sorry, I have no idea what you mean!

I'm a keen hiker and a very good map reader, paper type, not app and I've still managed to get disorientated while on a hike in foreign, unfamiliar terrain.
It is easily done, especially under pressure because of heat, tiredness.

I would, but people may persevere and try to pick a route onwards which isn’t a defined path, so turning back and retracing steps isn’t easy.

Many years ago on a field trip to Arran to group leader missed the path up Goat Fell, and we quickly found ourselves on a steep rock face with no easy route off. It’s easily done.

I have a terrible sense of direction and if I found myself without a phone or map in an unfamiliar place trying to walk from one coastal town to the next I would attempt to follow the coastline around. In the circumstances that Michael Mosley found himself I could see myself heading out of Pedi in the wrong direction to follow the coast round thinking “how far can it be, it’s just the next town along the coast?” Travelling by boat in the morning would give you little sense of how long and difficult the walk would be. Then he might have struck across country to try and shorten the distance

Yes Technology is improving