Thread 2 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Following on from thread 1, linked below.

Let's hope the CCTV / sighting in town gives a glimmer of home that he made the walk from the beach to town ok.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5090880-michael-moseley-missing-after-disappearing-on-holiday-walk?page=10&reply=135846185

Highly likely he was simply trying to get back to his friends house. He was heading in that direction, couldn't get a bus and just wanted to get back. The distance is small - probaby just a couple of miles and it's likely he underestimated how difficult the terrain was.

He was reported missing Wednesday night, on Thursday there were local appeals for info. The people with CCTV started checking but it wasn’t until someone came forward on Friday with the ‘mountain path’ footage that it looked like he’d taken the least likely route.

This is a very good point - I would not have thought of this. Thank you for the info (wondered why police hadn't been looking at this footage and hence looking in the wrong area).

Always feels creepy seeing a missing person on cctv.

Yeah especially when you don't know the area well, and the people around you don't speak the same language as you.

I've never got lost too badly in England , as I can just ask people for directions.

I have got lost badly in Spain and France before.

People do get lost. i once got lost in woodland and eventually found a river and followed the line of the river (the wrong way) but it was the most desperate feeling i have ever experienced.

In mountain terrain with no distinguishing landmarks it's very likely this is what has happened and he has fainted/dehydrated.

I question why i started off the path but j think i was trying to take a short cut and thought my sense of direction would take me back. People make all sorts of decisions like this every day.

Seriously? You’re suggesting basic common sense items in 40c shade heat is consumerism. These threads are illuminating natural selection at its best!

The new CCTV is taken from a camera at the marina building (yellow building with blue doors), so shows only that he was walking down what was left of the waterfront and nothing beyond that.

It's easy with hindsight to see a bad decision, but it's looking like for whatever reason, he didn't/couldn't catch the bus and perhaps he felt capable of making the walk.

He may have misjudged or took some bad directions. He looked to be walking purposefully through the town, so perhaps he believed another hour or so he'd be back at the accommodation.

I'm praying that he is found today.

Is this your area of expertise? Is this your job so you know how to do things better?

I'm assuming, like everyone else here, you only know what's in the news regarding this incident.
Just because you, or the media, only told people yesterday certain things you've actually no idea when the police and investigators found things or what they've been doing behind the scenes. We only know what's been realised and when they've chose not to release it. That it's almost certainly a lot later than when it first emerged.

There will also be other stuff they are working in which we have no idea about at this time.

Maybe when this is finished the rescue teams could come and look at your job and critique how you go about it, and how they could improve your work.

This happens a lot if the uk too, though times vary depending in sunset/sunrise throughout the year.

Sometimes the safety of the rescue teams has to be taken into account too, as well as the available resources at any one time.

Often official searches may finish at a certain time, but unofficial ones continue,

I've know that situation once before near home, a vulnerable teen went missing. The official search stopped overnight, for various reasons, but unofficial volunteers kept looking, albeit to no avail overnight. Teen was found elsewhere later the next day, by the official search teams.

Looks like he was heading east when he should have been going west though.

In response to the questions about why it took so long for the CCTV images to emerge- as PPs have said- this stuff takes time. You’ve got to first find out which premises have CCTV and then locate the owners. It can then take some time to look through that footage. We don’t know if all the people who had the CCTV on their premises were available to speak to, whether they were cooperative or whether they understood the urgency of the request etc.

I once went running in woods in mainland Europe (near where I lived at the time) and took a wrong turn and lost my way. Eventually night was falling and I was in the middle of a rapidly darkening forest, alone. Luckily I managed to find my way to the edge and some houses, and discovered I’d gone miles off course. The senior man whose door I knocked on was kind enough to drop me home to the next village. (Some way on foot through countryside.)

What feels like a safe situation that you’re seemingly in control of can turn very quickly into something worrying.

Regarding the new cctv, I wonder if he thought he was in a different spot? He knew he had to go to the end and turn left but he carried on too far? The cctv picked him up on the red path but he might have thought he was on blue path, then at the end he turned left and went up mountain path rather than where he should have gone - left and up the road.

I feel worried today.

Because yesterday there was a bit more time.

Every hour counts today. They really need to locate him today

Yeah most people get lost by taking one simple wrong turn.

The thing is for those who haven't looked at Google maps (and we've been called obsessed on this thread for doing so, so I don't blame you) is that the latest CCTV is showing him heading in the wrong direction.

There is a direct road from Pedi to where he was staying. Perhaps he thought as both places are on the coast that the best thing to do was to walk along the coast to get there. Perhaps as he didn't have his phone, he didn't have a map and he felt like that would be the most obvious route between the two places but looking at the map, it really isn't. There is still as much guess work now as to where he went but at least now the search area has dramatically narrowed down, which will help.

And for those saying that the rescuers were wasting time looking in the wrong place, I read that his wife has been searching a wooded area on the other side of Pedi and she will be the most desperate to find him but also appears to have been looking in the wrong place. Until the evidence comes forward, everyone is making their best guess.

Looking at the Marina and the reports that he wasn’t feel well might mean he could have fallen into the water after all. He had been doing quite a lot of walking in the hot sun by this point, would he have wanted to continue? He is seen walking quite fast also. The independent gave a good live feed at the moment. There us also a theory he could have swum to an island but that seems even more unlikely.

As a previous poster said, this new CCTV only shows him walking through the marina and nothing more. But he is walking fast and purposefully, as is also evident from the timings of all the confirmed sightings.
He could have boarded a boat at the marina? Or, the path out of there leads to another beach, Agios Marina. If he made it to there, he could have got on a boat there?

Great response, I’m so shocked at the armchair experts on the attack , no one knew they were searching in the “wrong “place, until they searched it. And there is no such place as the wrong place, they had to start immediately and going for the most likely is a good plan.

im absolutely confident these people giving it large about how it should habe been done. And attacking. Have absolutely no experience and wouldn’t score a job with any authorities in a month of Sundays.

Probably more cctv will come out today

I think there are too many people milling around a marina for them not to have seen someone fall in.

Ahh thanks. Your eyesight must be better than mine.