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Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

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DuncinToffee · 25/05/2024 08:28

He called it, countdown to 4th July

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Notonthestairs · 28/05/2024 22:40

Which is why they are coming after university courses next.

DuncinToffee · 28/05/2024 22:48

i news

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Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade
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cakeorwine · 28/05/2024 22:48

Interestingly - polling companies have seen a large increase in the number of young people who say they will definitely vote.

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2024 22:52

That’s such good news cake. The more, the better. I’d like to see a campaign encouraging them, highlighting what a milestone it is to vote for the first time. I remember my first vote vividly, it was the EU referendum in 1975.

Igotjelly · 28/05/2024 22:57

That’s great news! We moan about our young people being disengaged and not politically savvy enough to vote. I would argue that it’s on us to educate them about the importance of having your say and understanding that politics impacts just about every aspect of life.

user8800 · 28/05/2024 23:07

HannibalHeyes · 28/05/2024 22:28

I'm pretty sure that Ian Duncan Smith could be responsible for an awful lot of vaginal dryness...

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Evenstar · 28/05/2024 23:16

I can’t believe Iain Dale from LBC is standing for election. Saw this on Twitter, I had completely forgotten him assaulting an elderly man in 2013 and receiving a police caution https://x.com/tweetforthemany/status/1795574017686204610?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

BIossomtoes · 28/05/2024 23:22

That’s a hell of a flounce, isn’t it?

Scruffily · 28/05/2024 23:32

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2024 18:35

Telegraph having a totally normal one here and forgetting how old 18 year olds were 4 years ago. Hilariously the correction manages to make even less sense. Not sure what debt they owe for being locked down. Do we all owe it?

Why on earth does anyone, let alone young people, have to say thank you for lockdown? I mean, I get it that it was necessary, but it was hardly some sort of privilege.

Evenstar · 28/05/2024 23:32

Well he previously resigned from the Tory candidate list after failing to be selected three times and losing an election and said he would never stand again!

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2024 23:34

DuncinToffee · 28/05/2024 22:40

They really don't want educated young people

https://x.com/HugoGye/status/1795561181647642762

NEW

Latest Conservative policy push - they will ban 'low quality' degrees and use the funding to pay for more apprenticeships instead

Office for Students would decide which degrees are affected, Tories estimate it will be around 1 in 8

Might I suggest PPE at Oxford. It seems to have resulted in a lot of low quality MPs.

Notonthestairs · 28/05/2024 23:36

Evenstar · 28/05/2024 23:32

Well he previously resigned from the Tory candidate list after failing to be selected three times and losing an election and said he would never stand again!

Wow. And suddenly he's a good fit to be an MP.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2024 23:42

Scruffily · 28/05/2024 23:32

Why on earth does anyone, let alone young people, have to say thank you for lockdown? I mean, I get it that it was necessary, but it was hardly some sort of privilege.

It was a particularly odd take from the DT who have spent 4 years telling us how awful and unnecessary lockdowns were.

Evenstar · 28/05/2024 23:42

@Notonthestairs the deadline to select candidates is very close and they still need over 100 candidates

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/05/2024 07:00

Notonthestairs · 28/05/2024 21:50

Epic thread from Samuel West

x.com/exitthelemming/status/1795425589647856102?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Fifteen years. Five prime ministers, seven chancellors, eight foreign secretaries, twelve culture secretaries and sixteen housing ministers.

A thread, for #RantyTuesday.

One third of all children in poverty. Triple the NHS waiting list (6.4m). Energy bills up a quarter in the last two years. Food prices up a fifth. Huge mortgage increases. Four million hours of sewage poured into our rivers and seas in 2023, more than twice as much as in 2022

Number of food banks up 7000% since 2010. More food banks than branches of McDonalds in the UK, and now 4250 food banks operating in British schools

230 000 deaths from COVID; £29 billion on Test and Trace. £10 billion on unused PPE; £4 billion on fraudulent COVID loans. People dying alone; meanwhile, 126 Partygate fines from 16 parties at 10 Downing Street, among “the worst governing ever seen.”

Two years of talk about “levelling up” leading to Bradford and Hull, among the most deprived councils in the country, being cut by 28.5% and 27.9% respectively, Sheffield by 27.2% and Doncaster 25.8%. Councils in Surrey and Oxfordshire got the smallest cuts

A 45-day Prime Ministerial reign by Liz Truss and a mini-budget from Kwasi Kwarteng that cost the country £30bn, enough for an inflation-equalling pay rise for every public sector worker in the country. Kwarteng said they “got carried away.”

Immigrants, the working poor, the hungry, the unemployed, the sick, the mentally ill and the disabled demonised for their circumstances. Half a billion pounds on the Rwanda scheme, a performatively cruel and unworkable policy that criminalises the trafficked, not the traffickers

Taking no responsibility. Blaming teachers, nurses, railway workers, lawyers, lifeboat volunteers, the BBC, care home staff, local government, the civil service, the C of E, footballers, refuse collectors, universities and people who use food banks. So that’s everybody, then

Accepting £8.4 million from fossil fuel interests and climate change deniers since the last election. In the face of climate disaster, green policies delayed or abandoned. Rowing back on Net Zero. F.o.I. requests about the state of the environment buried by the Environment Agency

A pledge for everyone in UK to live fifteen minutes from a green space quietly shelved. Plans to make the target for access to green space legally binding scrapped. Sunak not attending COP 27.

The dismantling of democracy. “Limited” law-breaking; proroguing Parliament; junking parliamentary standards; the Internal Market Act; the Elections Act; endangering the right to protest while claiming the Public Order Act only targets “Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati.”

The Home Office deliberately removing legal protection for Windrush immigrants in 2014. 164 people wrongly detained or deported in the ensuing scandal. 30 Windrush Report recommendations: nine not delivered; three cancelled by Suella Braverman

Very British scandals: Post Office; Grenfell; Windrush; Contaminated Blood; the Carers’ allowance. A cover-up culture: defend; deny; deceive.

A tax gap 100x bigger than that of benefit fraud. Huge systematic corporate tax avoidance by the government's friends and backers. FTSE bosses earning on average 120 times the average employee (people think the ideal ratio should be 7:1). 24 more new UK billionaires in 2021 alone

Local Government revenue funding cut by 48% since 2010. Culture funding down 43%. Our world-class arts organisations clinging to their reputation, begging a government who believes “music, dance, drama and performing arts, art and design …are not among our strategic priorities.”

A third of England’s libraries closed since 2010. A-level and GCSE arts entries down by 29% and 47% respectively. Humanities degrees defunded because they don’t produce “graduate outcomes in areas of economic importance.”

Cheerleading the self-inflicted wound of Brexit: border checks that cost £4.7bn. GDP down 4%. Food £250 a year more expensive. A trade border in Ireland which threatens the Good Friday agreement. An ‘oven-ready deal’ that turned out inedible

Systematic underfunding of the Health Service by people who never use it. Backdoor privatisation by stealth. Clapping for the NHS and refusing nurses a pay rise over 1%. Driving down public sector pay so healthcare becomes dependent on immigration, then demonising the immigrants

The average person in the UK £10 200 poorer. The worst fall in real wages in the G7. 2.2m women in low-paid jobs. UK workers earning £75 a month less in real terms than in 2008, though we work Europe’s third longest hours. Retirement age raised to 68 (women’s up from 60)

Voting down free school meals. Twice. Closing 500 Sure Start centres. Some of the least happy children in the developed world, and some of the worst child poverty. In 2014, there were no British cities where more than a third of children lived in poverty. By 2021, there were six

Record inequality in education. 70% of state schools’ funding cut. State school teachers run into the ground by people whose children don’t go to state schools. Child trust funds scrapped. Childcare costs up 30% in the last ten years - far higher than most European countries

Compulsory National Service for 18-year-olds. No money to feed hungry children or to remove the two-child benefit cap. But always money for a new nuclear arms race.

The highest rail prices in Europe; the second worst fuel poverty; the third highest housing costs; the fourth poorest elderly

Distracting from every failure of government with a culture war which sees challenging racism and inequality, making the curriculum factual or representative of historical truth and a changing Britain derided as “woke".

The wholesale dismantling of the Welfare State. Wealthy people running a wealthy country, choosing to create scarcity. Austerity sold to us as a financial necessity. Instead, every inequality increased; every benefit cut

The worst regional inequality in Western Europe and perhaps unsurprisingly, the lowest level of trust in politicians

We’ve had fifteen years of this shit. We need these people out, we need them out now, and we need to keep them out for a very long time.

I feel like there is something for everyone on that list.

Also 10 education secs - fuckers.

prettybird · 29/05/2024 08:15

That's quite a horrific litany - that actually reflects accurately what it's felt like for those of us who've had to experience it Angry

Re Diane Abbott, it's no coincidence that she was given back the whip the day after her local constituency could have chosen her. Hmm

Having now read more about what got the whip removed from her, and read the full quote, what she wrote was undoubtedly clumsy but not as egregious as the partial quotes portray. Plus it shows just how terrified the Labour Party is of being accused of being anti-Semitic - but isn't as bothered about being just as "anti-Irish" or "anti-Traveller" Confused And she apologised.

Zonder · 29/05/2024 08:18

MrsMurphyIWish · 29/05/2024 07:00

Also 10 education secs - fuckers.

Wow I missed the original post of this. That's incredible when you read it all in one place. How is anyone voting Tory?

fabio12 · 29/05/2024 08:20

prettybird · 29/05/2024 08:15

That's quite a horrific litany - that actually reflects accurately what it's felt like for those of us who've had to experience it Angry

Re Diane Abbott, it's no coincidence that she was given back the whip the day after her local constituency could have chosen her. Hmm

Having now read more about what got the whip removed from her, and read the full quote, what she wrote was undoubtedly clumsy but not as egregious as the partial quotes portray. Plus it shows just how terrified the Labour Party is of being accused of being anti-Semitic - but isn't as bothered about being just as "anti-Irish" or "anti-Traveller" Confused And she apologised.

I agree - she's been really stiffed by them. I think Starmer and her clearly don't get on and he is really making sure she knows he is boss. I don't like the undertones to be honest.

I still wish one of the main parties would stand up against the genocide. It's like people are ignoring a huge war just because saying one side are acting hideously means we're being mean and it must be racist. I can't think of a time this has ever happened before in history. How will this be written up without mentioning what they are doing?

Zonder · 29/05/2024 08:24

I'm still cross about Diane Abbott. It really does look bad, how they've timed all this.

Piggywaspushed · 29/05/2024 08:33

I posted a while back the report about bullying in the Labour Party. It didn't look good tbh. The treatment of Abbott was awful. I assume they think she's expendable.

It's very sad.

Piggywaspushed · 29/05/2024 08:35

Re young people. The current government also hates universities and would love to see many of them go to the wall.

1 in 8 degrees is a lot!

Outdoorsygirl1 · 29/05/2024 08:43

What the hell is that telegraph article about? Is the writer missing a few brain cells?

My dc will turn 18 when this proposal is bought in. He wasn't on furlough. He was 12 and couldn't go to school for months as well as all his clubs cancelled.

Myself and his father worked all the way through Covid me at home and dh out at work. I had to supervise the children and work at the same time.

His grandparents were actually the ones on furlough.

What the hell does he or any of us have to thank elders for? They should be thanking us if anything Covid wasn't even a risk to us we got it and were fine.

What is that writer on.

Zonder · 29/05/2024 08:43

Piggywaspushed · 29/05/2024 08:35

Re young people. The current government also hates universities and would love to see many of them go to the wall.

1 in 8 degrees is a lot!

They really do seem to hate universities. Either they had such a bad time at Oxbridge that they're out for revenge, or they loved it so much they don't think any other unis should exist.

Piggywaspushed · 29/05/2024 08:47

The latter.MN Posts on HE often suggest many people have a real issue with YP who ate not stellar accessing HE. They should all be plumbing or something . The arts are particularly derided.

IClaudine · 29/05/2024 08:49

It would be good to think that this might make all the newly minted 18 year olds to get out there and vote. C'mon people, we need you!