Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

[DuncinToffee]

He called it, countdown to 4th July

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...and doesn't realise that the age ranges are different in Scotland

You can go to a Scottish uni technically from 16.5 if you go after S5 (=Y12) (although in practice, few do) and even if you do S6 (ie all the years possible at school) you might only turn 18 the following February if you hadn't been deferred when starting school, which is common, most of the way through 1st year at Uni, if you're at the youngest possible end of the year

I can guarantee that this brain fart "idea" was gurgitated without any consultation with the their "branch" parties in the devolved nations, to ask if there were differences that they needed to be aware of.

Same here. Ds is 19 and thinks it's the most stupid idea they've had to date - and he already thinks they're idiots 🤣

Well, I think everyone can safely assume they (once again...) didn't think about NI.

pretty , indeed I was 17 when I started uni. Turned 18 abut a week after starting!

Interestingly, 23 year old ds thinks that the concept per se is not completely ridiculous , BUT should be restricted to those not already in education, employment or training after and should be properly funded and thought through.

It's not a cheap option

Honestly, you couldn't make it up. Political satirists must be screaming in anguish.

Don't worry once the election starts officially with parliament being prorogued next week, spending rules will apply and he will pop up less often.

Bad form to mention other threads, but it did amuse me when someone posted a story about 15 years choosing the Tory leader in the 16 year olds to get votes thread. It was really a mic drop moment.

That's what happened to ds. Turned 18 on the 1st day of lectures so couldn't get into a lot of Freshers Events.

I went from S5 but was at the "old" end of the year so was a whole 17.5 when I went in October Fortunately I was at St Andrews (so mostly English students ) and before the era of good ID checks so pubs just assumed I was 18 like almost all the other students This was a long time ago though

Isn't Baker the Minister for NI?

I don’t like to be pedantic but a Government policy would have been developed by ministers on the advice of officials and collectively agreed. I would have had a say on behalf of NI.

But this proposal was developed by a political adviser or advisers and sprung on candidates, some of whom are relevant ministers.

x.com/stevebakerfrsa/status/1794991408006185258?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I predate Fresher's Week tbh and didn't get IDd once. I don't think we had ID!

Loads of my friends were 17.

this proposal was developed by a political adviser or advisers and sprung on candidates

Previously noted is all prospective candidates will have to learn the words to the company song - including the verses that contain this horseshit. It's not possible that 100% of the are 100% behind it, so how will they fare on a doorstep with Rish! safely in a(nother) safe Tory seat he needn't be in ?

From some vantages, it does seem like Sansom pulling down the temple around all. If people aren't yet saying "Scorched Earth Sunak" yet, it's only because that haven't read this post 😀

Maybe we need some sweepstakes on what other batshit policies Rish! will saddle the Tories with before he quits the UK. May I suggest "use the unemployed to replace traffic cones ?"

Keir Starmer is giving a speech at the moment

Starmer calls Sunak’s campaign “symbolic of the chaos” of the Conservatives

On National Service policy he calls it “desperation” & a “teenage Dad’s Army”

“Paid, I kid you not, by cancelling levelling up funding & money from tax avoidance we would use to invest in our NHS”

According to Steven Swinford , Baker thinks he could be sacked as a candidate for speaking out against Rishi Sunak's flagship National Service policy

He's not backing down. 'He knows he could be sacked as a candidate and he thinks it would be worth it'

(And yes Baker is the NI Minister)

St Andrews has what they called "Bejants Week" (Bejants and Bejantines = 1st years), but it was essentially just the week before term when people arrived and got settled in their Halls of Residence. As it's really just a giant Hogwarts (as ds accurately described it when we went to an Open Day ), all 1st years were in Halls. There were events in the Union (no night clubs in St Andrews ) and a Societies Fair, plus iirc, Subjects Fairs (as you could still choose your "extra" subjects). Pubs were the main place for socialising

I can’t believe how much time and energy is being spent discussing a policy that’s pie in the sky and will never happen. It’s the ultimate squirrel - what’s happening that Sunak wants to distract us from?

Danger, apparently! Terrible danger!

It's the equivalent of turning up the music at a conference so no one can hear anyone else talk.

In some ways.

I think writ large it won't work the way whoever dreamt it up thinks it will. Ultimately I don't think there are any fig leaves left to help the shy tories justify their stance. Sunak has systematically managed to destroy them all.

I wouldn't to as far as to suggest he is a Labour plant. However he seems so fucking dim than any Labour plant could direct him at will. Not 9only has he fucked the Tories right royally with his election timing. He is ensuring his successor will inherit fuck all.

All of a sudden the Tories discover a love for the rule of law

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13462423/Conservatives-threatened-legal-action-allegedly-blocking-pro-Boris-Johnson-candidates-standing-general-election.html

I don't know how true this is but

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1794426117090152490

NEW: Paddy Power has been forced to axe its Euro 2024 ad campaign starring Boris Johnson following a staff revolt

The Tories now have 12 days to fill 160 vacancies – the equivalent of picking one candidate every 100 minutes

Better get a move on then

This! Can't believe I didn't think of this. And Infosys will need to set up their systems.

Indeed! It's also a way to 'process' that pesky increase in those aged 18-25 who make up the bulk of the new 'sicknote culture' who are, inexplicably given the damage to their education & their experiences of the competence of leaders, suffering from an increase in anxiety & depression, apparantly.
Blame them, 'sign them up', charge them (or their parents).
Ker-ching!

It's a win-win really then!

Not sure what happens to that deadline if malcontent tories win an injunction to prevent it.

Luckily they won't because - despite their own bullshit hype - judges aren't lefty activists.

I wonder if they would take it to the ECHR ?