Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

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He called it, countdown to 4th July

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So funny watching unCleverley talking about how important it is for teens to get out of their bubble and mix with different people. Do they have a plan for helping Tory ministers in the same way?

I keep shouting at the radio that the party who closed down the Sure Start centres where kids actually got together is the party least welcome to criticise the kids they've failed to nurture socially.

I have opened, funded and ran several community groups.

Where will the money come from for all the dbs checks? The wait is already very long.in some areas.

Where will the time come be found from already busy volunteers to train these young people who can only give 24 days a year?

Community groups will be inundated with applications - yet more volunteer admin.

It's just a ridiculous policy from a ridiculous party who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

They haven't ruled out fining the parents of 18 year olds that don't carry out mandatory volunteering/get selected for the army.
Will suit voters that believe all 18 year olds are lazy/insolent and their parents are snowflakes. There were quite a few of those on MN yesterday.

As for the suggestion that you wouldn't be able to apply for a public sector job unless you had completed national service - I mean come on, what a way to limit applications.

There's clearly been barely any thought whatsoever in the conscription policy, it's the same as Rwanda. What can we say that's headline grabbing and slightly shocking? I know, National Service, like I know, Let's send them to Rwanda!

What's the detail behind it? How will that work then? Erm, dunno, no idea, shuffles feet awkwardly.

But we don't need to worry, because it's never gonna happen...

So if you are a trainee doctor / nurse etc, would you also have to spend 25 days a year volunteering so you can then apply to be a doctor or a nurse?

It's proof - if we needed it - that the Conservatives will pump out any old crap to deflect from their recent history.

I still think he might do a runner

I wouldn’t be surprised if they are envisaging companies being set up to run these ‘voluntary’ schemes - a bit like the companies that exist for volunteering abroad during gap years. Lots of profit to be made there for their buddies down the pub.

Although that would imply some thought has gone in to this.

"As the Financial Times reports, yesterday Rishi Sunak said that people who have done national service could get preference when applying for university or for an apprenticeship, or in interviews for the civil service’s fast-track programme. He said:
We want to make sure Britain’s future generations can get the most out of national service. That’s why we’re looking into ways it can open doors they wouldn’t otherwise get in work or education"

How do you get preference when applying for university when you are at University?

Does he not know that 18 year olds are at University?

Presumably it means the summer born children who won't have clocked up sufficient hours before university will be required to take a year out. Or travel home once a month to complete it. Or the universities will have to organise it in that area.

I mean, it's bollocks isn't it. We joke about policies drawn up on the back of a fag packet, this was nothing more than a line on a vape stick.

My ds had finished college by 17 as a summer born.

He was working from 18 in a start up as a software developer.

I'm not entirely sure how joining the military (can't anyway due to disability) or volunteering in public services for 25 days would have given him life chances.

Not having time out of school whilst I fought his ehcp via tribunals at a cost to the tax payer (that he got anyway!) would have given him a better life chance.

More access to nhs services would improve his outcomes.

Better education for pupils with send and less acadamisation (semi privatisation if schools) would have given him a better chance of managing secondary education.

This government live under a rock although they'd be more useful under one right now.

I mean, it's bollocks isn't it. We joke about policies drawn up on the back of a fag packet, this was nothing more than a line on a vape stick.

Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ah well, he has lost the Chair of the Birmingham Young Conservatives with this policy, he has joined the Lib Dems

I would also like to point out that the vast majority of UK universities for most courses take everyone who applies who achieves the grades they advertise as the entry requirements or in a not insignificant number of cases lower grades. So even if it were a good idea, it doesn't make any sense.

I'm wondering whether the SPAD who came up with this has September born children and assumed all year 13s turn 18 at the beginning of their final year of school....

Probably.

I would love to ask Sunak some of the questions I have. Maybe I could get a chance as I don't live too far from his constituency. Just get up there for a chance encounter.

Repeatedly for the last 10 years or so , from Oxbridge downwards, unis have said 'please don't bang on about your hobbies, Gap Yahs, being head girl, and posh volunteering in your personal statement. We want to know why you want to study physics.'

The exception is, of course, medicine and nursing where many young people can't get work experience for love nor money.

Apparently he is reading questions on his TikTok.

ps unless you are a Tory activist I don't think you'll get a 'chance encounter'.

What would be the point? You can ask him any question, what colour the sky is perhaps, and your answer will be one of:

• Labour has no plan!
• Back to square one!!!
• Jeremy Corbyn!

I was shouting at the telly yesterday... ' yes, this is called a comprehensive school, twat.'

Noticed a curiousity in my feed yesterday.

GBNews really have turned on Farage. I think I can see a bridge burning.

Of note is that GBNews (which is after all the spelling arm of Reform) believes that Reform supporters are insulted that their spiritual leader is fucking off to the US and leaving them high and dry.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/video-nigel-farage-blasted-reform-snub-general-election

Dd1 is on tic toc. She is fed of him popping up on her feed and thinks conscription is a stupid idea. She's only a year older than the target age group but she has a vote.