Another XL Bully has killed a woman

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Hornchurch: Woman dies in XL bully attack at home www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-69041493

She was the owner and sounds like she had a couple of them. They were registered but clearly that doesn't and didn't stop this preventable death.

I could be a home with small children. Who is standing up for their rights?

I'd refuse too.

Why should they put themselves in danger?

So she was so poor she had to ask others to pay for euthanasia but not poor enough to qualify for pdsa or similar free vet treatment? I know they’re not everywhere but there are other, similar, low cost vet schemes nationwide.

@Willmafrockfit - yes, many ( understandably) don't agree with putting healthy dogs to sleep.

I'm not sure how I'd feel if I had to spend my working day doing that to a dog that (at that point) had no issues - it can't be easy, even if it's the "right" thing long-term.

I think it's important to remember that vets are people too and most of them aren't going to happily kill healthy animals.

IMO if the government wanted all these dogs euthanised they should have done it themselves, not passed the buck.

Sadly, I think it is impossible now to check if a dog is descended from KK. Too much (in)breeding, most of it illegal

The kind of people who have XLBs, don't care about the genetics of the thing.

I am going to sound brutal but I am just sick of this vile dog breed.

Accidents like this one when the owner ends up dead are the only way that could eventually culminate in dog owners snapping out of it and proceeding to get rid of these evil creatures.

The rest of the members of the public are fully aware of the dangers of these animals and don't need convincing. It is just the thick owners who are blatantly reckless who need to learn the lesson, and they will only learn it the hard way.

So, yes, sorry for the loss, but from a strategic perspective we are one step closer to the elimination of the species.

Well no, not if it is muzzled. I watched a xl go for two small dogs, it was muzzled, so couldn’t, but there is absolutely no doubt in what it was trying to do. The speed, aggression, suddenness of the lunge. It was trying to attack the dogs, the fact it was muzzled is what stopped it. The Strong man holding the lead pulled it back, but if it wasn’t muzzled those dogs would have died, the attack would have been successful, and fast. The man wouldn’t have been able to stop it, it was so so fast. The little dogs were not doing anything other than in the vicinity with their owner. They didn’t even approach the dog, steered clear. The xl was looking the other way then whipped round and lunged with a ferocious speed.

Interestingly, I thought this breed was typically owned by young men with a 'hard' image. But what I've seen a lot of is middle-aged women saying 'He's so soft, he's my baby'. They have a whole group local to me and meet up and have big mass 'xl bully' walks (muzzled) and a lot of them are women.

I agree with this, I don’t feel sorry for her, she chose to keep them knowing what this abomination of a ‘breed’, is capable of.

The outcry when these things were to be muzzled absolutely baffled me. ‘Land hippo, velvet hippo, soft as butter’ etc etc were all trotted out on social media and various forums.

100% this

The only XL bully owners I know are women who describe themselves as living in "dangerous, pro crime" areas.

Both with kids, both with criminal records and both always pleading poverty.

Hippos are an apt comparison, they're bloody lethal.

My husband is a Meter engineer and was bitten on the arm by one of those charming dogs. Thank God he wore protective clothing and it was only a superficial injury.

The owner locked them away in her house, but one of them broke free while him and his colleague were working in the garden.

It kills me to think what could have happened

It gives them some sort of higher purpose

Dear god. This is terrifying. My PILs have a beautiful big (rescued) dog who pretty much meets XL Bully criteria though she is a bit less barrel chested and longer in the leg than the "typical" XL.

She's genuinely the sweetest dog I ever met and is terrified of her own shadow. Like so scared she pees herself and runs away squealing if the cat spits at her.

Based on this Killer Kimbo stuff, she could just flip someday if he's in her bloodline? Our big squishy faced, submissive softie? That's beyond scary. Especially as we have no way of knowing her pedigree.... Our only choice is to PTS if we want to be certain. I could literally cry.

They should have called for volunteers. I’d have offered (not a vet, but I’m quite a good shot).

She absolutely could @PuppiesProzacProsecco - every single XL bully says the same as you until their dog flips and rips someone's throat out.

But presumably she could afford to feed the monsters?

She had one and that is probably debatable. But anyway that’s a whole other thread.
The issue is the police etc left an XL bully with someone who couldn’t control it who had two young children and was begging for help regardless of the prior circumstances this is not acceptable.

I heard dj spoony on the radio defending and saying how wonderful his XL bully was and how unbearable it would be to muzzle it
He said it would trust it with young children and he's a big softy who needs big hugs! 🙄

Good grief! Poor man - I hope he's not too traumatised.

When reading about the woman I was thinking well at least it was her and not an unfortunate postie or meter man.

This is so true. I was in the vets a few weeks ago and someone had brought an XL in and all the staff were fawning over the hulking beast and saying this "cutie" wouldnt hurt a fly. I couldn't get me, child and dog away fast enough.

Meanwhile over on instagram Vicki Pattison is urging people to donate money for life saving surgery on an XL bully

Awful news.

And, looking at the bbc link in the 1st post, still there are so called dog experts claiming that the breed can be trained.
I must admit there are many aspects of dog ownership that I just don't get.

They must’ve just been really hungry 🤷‍♀️