Another XL Bully has killed a woman

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Hornchurch: Woman dies in XL bully attack at home www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-69041493

She was the owner and sounds like she had a couple of them. They were registered but clearly that doesn't and didn't stop this preventable death.

I agree. However surely enforcement will be very difficult?
Those who are determined to keep Pitbull type animals and other dangerous dogs will hide them indoors, possibly also make sure that any neighbours who find out are too scared to report them 🤷🏼‍♀️
As it is we have a situation where these animals are being brazenly walked around in public, no muzzles. I'm thinking lots of people must report them but nothing happens 🤷🏼‍♀️

"I realised it was not stopping, it was coming to get me," Mr Ramirez said, "I saw the aggression, it was in defence mode. All of this happened so quickly. It chomped on my right hand. Once it released my hand, I then grabbed the dog by the neck with both my hands and that disabled him in a way. It's the first time I have really done something like that."
Holding the dog in a chokehold, Mr Ramirez waited for the dawdling owner to come and put him on the lead. Meanwhile, the 'hysterical' woman told him 'Why did you come out of nowhere?' already trying to shift the blame on him, Mr Ramirez alleged. Even though the lead was now on, Mr Ramirez said the dog managed to charge again to bite down on his left hand, nipping his ring finger.
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Mr Ramirez said he reported the incident to police after he was released from the hospital, but claimed the investigating officer failed to take a statement or investigate the case.
"That did not sit with me well," he told us. Only when Hammersmith and Fulham Council were notified about the attack, did the Met take a full statement and begin investigating, he claimed.

The owners and the police don't give a damn about attacks, for all they care the human victim might as well have been a rat.
The dog is treated as if it were sacred.

Goodness me, the met failed to do basic policing. Well I am surprised.

XL Bully attacks and kills woman in Northern Ireland on her birthday - World News - Mirror Online

it just gets worse, poor lady

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That poor woman, she will have suffered like Ian price did.

and elsewhere in Ireland

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2024/0605/1453055-limerick-dog-attack/

It seems likely that the attacking dogs in both cases had been transported to Ireland in order to avoid the restrictions in the UK.

I wonder what will happen when Ireland also ban ... I bet Northern and the Republic will be scrambling to get in first, so the problem doesn't get thrown across the border to them.

I also wonder how many of this girl's (or any victim's) friends and families are living with similar dogs and still thinking it's never going to happen to them.

@MuscariFan I wonder if some of the pit-bull type devotees will try to save them by getting them into spain and portugal?
After all those countries (& others afaik) have been able to get people in the UK to pay money for their feral dogs, the pbtds might think they can get them to accept our dangerous dogs?

The first headline above is wrong. This happened in Republic of Ireland (Co Limerick) not Northern Ireland.

I would like to see them banned everywhere on this island.

Yes, I knew it was Limerick - all I meant is that the geography of Ireland is definitely going to allow for a Scotland scenario, where dogs are hastily passed across the border.

Yes indeed.
They can't be banned soon enough imo, everywhere.

Fiddly changes in rules gets us nowhere. We need a change in attitude.

Even the smaller dogs can maim a child so anyone you see with a dog has made the decision that their entertainment is worth more than the life of a child.

Even if it's that nice lady next door or Auntie Ethel.

It's not the dog's fault. They are predators and as such should not be in our streets, our parks or our homes and should be dealt with accordingly.

That won't happen when we have people even on MN who have said "if you choose to have kids you take the chance my dog will maul them"

I don't understand your post. Are you saying ALL dogs don't belong on our streets?

I’m not sure that the poster was saying that exactly, but it is a perfectly tenable view. If you are going to keep an animal that’s capable of killing a child, why shouldn’t you keep it away from where children will be? Or at least keep it muzzled. There is no need for any dog to be out in public without a muzzle.

The dog devotees will say that children are the ones who should be restrained and restricted so that the dog can fully enjoy its life and express its natural instincts.

Children are humans, most of whom will go to school, get qualifications and hopefully fulfill useful roles in human society, whereas the dog is form of living toy which exists for the amusement of its owner only. All this doesn't seem to occur to the dog devotees. They just want everyone and everything to respect the needs of their creature.

Many dogs are owned by people with children. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The dogs being referred to on this thread are bred to have a killer instinct, it's ridiculous to compare them to a king Charles spaniel or whatever.

Your average dog isn't a predator of humans, whether it's owned by Auntie Ethel or anybody else. These beasts aren't average dogs.

The majority of dog owners are responsible, clean up after their animals, keep them on a lead in public places and don't own a dog they can't control. Yes I know people will now reply about the many badly behaved owners/dogs they've seen, but that's only because the dogs that are plodding along happily next to their owners, minding their own business aren't the ones that stick in their memory.

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-mauled-to-death-posted-video-dancing-of-her-with-xl-bully-to-song-saying-i-dont-give-a-f-about-the-breed-being-banned-13148665

"If one of us dies I hope I die first"

Well at least she got her wish 🤦

Darwin.

As relevant today as he ever was.

Jesus wept, WTF, it's like she willingly sacrificed herself to this thing 😱🥴🥺

I suppose if they only kill their owners ...well it's two birds with one stone isn't it.
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I wonder if she 'gave an F' at the end, when her 'fur baby' tore her to pieces.

I don't have much sympathy to be honest, I'm just glad it wasn't an innocent person, child or dog who was hurt by her stupidity.

Lived by the hideously deformed badly bred sword, died by it.

Gosh, those videos aren't going to age well. House full of the things. Horrific.

As I said in a post somewhere yesterday - I wonder how many of her family and friends are living with similar dogs and thinking it could never happen to them.

When I heard the news headline yesterday morning, not realising it had happened in the middle of the night, my first fear was that the victim was either a garda or an animal welfare officer. I'm desperately sorry that people have decided to selectively breed such aggressive dogs, but when those who suffer the consequences have chosen to keep them there seems to be a tragic inevitability to it.