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Noodge · 2024-05-09T08:07:26+00:00

My lodger works in a nursery and starts around 07:30. Her boss has messaged me this morning to ask me to get her to get in touch as she hasn't turned up for work. I actually heard lodger getting up this morning, but then I went back to sleep. Is it my business? I'm inclined to think not but then, if she's accidentally slept in she might appreciate me waking her up? I've only just seen the message so she's already very late. Boss knows who I am as we're both in the same social group. WWYD?

Hairychops77892 · 09/05/2024 15:30

GalileoHumpkins · 09/05/2024 13:29

what is bangret please?

When you cut your own fringe and it looks so bad you can't leave the house for three months.

😀😀

FiatEarth · 09/05/2024 15:34

I reckon the boss called you because they didn't believe her when she called in sick and was hoping you'd say, 'She's fine, I can hear her break dancing in her room and she's going out this afternoon on a hot date!'

TheShellBeach · 09/05/2024 15:38

GalileoHumpkins · 09/05/2024 13:29

what is bangret please?

When you cut your own fringe and it looks so bad you can't leave the house for three months.

🤣🤣🤣

Vonesk · 09/05/2024 15:50

In an urgent situation like this Bang on Door.
After 2 min. Go in.
I did a similar thing when my youn g lodger sounded hysterical late one night; I just barged in as she was so loud and could have woken the whole street.

justpeachy1234 · 09/05/2024 15:50

Orangemangogrape · 09/05/2024 09:12

She could have meningitis. You should check.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 most ridiculous comment!!

notmycrow · 09/05/2024 15:56

justpeachy1234 · 09/05/2024 15:50

🤣🤣🤣🤣 most ridiculous comment!!

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Yeah until you actually have someone close to you dying from meningitis because someone didn’t check on them. Especially your own brother.

Beatrixslobber · 09/05/2024 15:59

Orangemangogrape · 09/05/2024 09:12

She could have meningitis. You should check.

That’s such a strange conclusion to jump to with no other information other than she didn’t turn up got work!

Cesarina · 09/05/2024 16:02

GalileoHumpkins · 09/05/2024 09:27

Or a hangover
Or a splinter
Or bangret
Or she could have just said feck it and gone back to sleep. 🤷‍♂️

I would check, she lives with you so presumably you're on somewhat friendly terms.

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What's "bangret"?

Cesarina · 09/05/2024 16:02

What's "bangret"?

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Sorry, another PP has already asked this........

Bjorkdidit · 09/05/2024 16:07

I now need to know whether a bangret really is 'when you cut your own fringe and it looks so bad you can't leave the house for three months' or if @GalileoHumpkins is comedy genius because google isn't helping.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/05/2024 16:11

If lodger called in sick before she started work (7.30)

Why was work contacting you at almost 8am

But yes it's not hard to knock on door to ask if ok when in same house

Wok was maybe concerned she had left and not got to work so maybe had an accident

StarsHideYourFir3s · 09/05/2024 16:12

FiatEarth · 09/05/2024 15:34

I reckon the boss called you because they didn't believe her when she called in sick and was hoping you'd say, 'She's fine, I can hear her break dancing in her room and she's going out this afternoon on a hot date!'

This has really made me laugh!

fungipie · 09/05/2024 16:14

So bizarre that OP has not come back for update !

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 09/05/2024 16:14

Cesarina · 09/05/2024 16:02

Sorry, another PP has already asked this........

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Probably when you bang someone and regret it.

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 09/05/2024 16:16

fungipie · 09/05/2024 16:14

So bizarre that OP has not come back for update !

They've been back several times?! If you filter by "see all", you'll see all of the OP's replies.

fungipie · 09/05/2024 16:19

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 09/05/2024 16:16

They've been back several times?! If you filter by "see all", you'll see all of the OP's replies.

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Ah I see- it was not clear as it just said yes it is what happened in answer to another post. OK.

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 16:26

Surely if employee starts at 7:30, manager messaging you and sending someone to knock on the door all before 9 is ridiculous. Yes, there’s a duty of care, but employee was barely 20 minutes late when OP got the first message, that’s within “stuck in traffic” tolerances! Sure, if no one’s heard from employee by lunchtime it’s a different story.

Sounds much more like they thought you’d chivvy a flaky employee out of bed to me.

I’d tell flaky employee to keep her phone on and make sure she calls in sick on time, and manager that you are only to be contacted in an emergency. Twenty five minutes late to work is absolutely not an emergency.

Blondeshavemorefun · 09/05/2024 16:30

It is an emergency when working in a nursery as have to be under ratio

fieldsofbutterflies · 09/05/2024 16:33

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 16:26

Surely if employee starts at 7:30, manager messaging you and sending someone to knock on the door all before 9 is ridiculous. Yes, there’s a duty of care, but employee was barely 20 minutes late when OP got the first message, that’s within “stuck in traffic” tolerances! Sure, if no one’s heard from employee by lunchtime it’s a different story.

Sounds much more like they thought you’d chivvy a flaky employee out of bed to me.

I’d tell flaky employee to keep her phone on and make sure she calls in sick on time, and manager that you are only to be contacted in an emergency. Twenty five minutes late to work is absolutely not an emergency.

If someone was stuck in traffic, they'd ring or message to say as such, surely?

fedupwithbeingcold · 09/05/2024 16:41

I think the employer did the right thing by finding the easiest person to check. Years ago my colleague didn't turn up on Monday morning. Large office so everyone assumed she was on annual leave. By Tuesday someone checked the system and realised she was not meant to be on leave. HR did a check on her and she had been dead since Saturday. It's rare but it can happen.

Another time I did a check on someone by calling his partner. He was only an hour late but it was unusual for him. Turns out he was diabetic and had fallen due to an insulin issue. If we had not checked, the partner might not have realised for hours, as they were already at work

mathanxiety · 09/05/2024 16:57

Bjorkdidit · 09/05/2024 12:43

Er, ACAS would disagree:

https://www.acas.org.uk/unauthorised-absence#:~:text=Employers%20have%20a%20duty%20of,and%20if%20they're%20safe.

'Checking an employee is safeEmployers have a duty of care towards their employees. They must do all they reasonably can to support their health, safety and wellbeing.
When an employee does not turn up for work, their employer should follow steps to check where they are and if they're safe.
They should first check if the employee has a planned absence. For example, if they're on holiday or have an appointment.
If the employee should be at work, the employer should:

Try contacting the employee using their work contact details
Try contacting them using their personal contact details
Get in touch with the employee's emergency contact'

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The OP isn't one of the listed emergency contacts.

She is known to the manager in another context, and the manager has somehow learned that the employee is her lodger.

The manager has breached the confidentiality of her employee by letting a third party know the employee is skipping work without notice.

The emergency contact is the only person the manager should call if she can't get through to the employee herself.

For her part, the employee could easily have left a voice message for the manager after the first vomiting episode in the night. The manager should check all voice messages first thing, obv.

mathanxiety · 09/05/2024 17:00

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 16:26

Surely if employee starts at 7:30, manager messaging you and sending someone to knock on the door all before 9 is ridiculous. Yes, there’s a duty of care, but employee was barely 20 minutes late when OP got the first message, that’s within “stuck in traffic” tolerances! Sure, if no one’s heard from employee by lunchtime it’s a different story.

Sounds much more like they thought you’d chivvy a flaky employee out of bed to me.

I’d tell flaky employee to keep her phone on and make sure she calls in sick on time, and manager that you are only to be contacted in an emergency. Twenty five minutes late to work is absolutely not an emergency.

Yes to this.

Also, if stuck in traffic she could easily call the manager.

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 09/05/2024 17:29

Orangemangogrape · 09/05/2024 09:12

She could have meningitis. You should check.

That's... quite the reach?

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 17:30

fieldsofbutterflies · 09/05/2024 16:33

If someone was stuck in traffic, they'd ring or message to say as such, surely?

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That works, if you’re on a route where you can safely pull off, legally park, switch off your engine and use your phone.

There are lots of situations where that’s just not practical or legal.

fieldsofbutterflies · 09/05/2024 17:34

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 17:30

That works, if you’re on a route where you can safely pull off, legally park, switch off your engine and use your phone.

There are lots of situations where that’s just not practical or legal.

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I know it's not a popular view on MN, but I suspect IRL, most people would just send a quick text to a colleague even if it was technically illegal.

But also, really bad traffic would reach social media and the news, so you'd know that Jane was coming from Smithtown and there'd been an accident so that probably explains the delay.