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Should I wake my lodger? Hasn't turned up for work

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Noodge · 09/05/2024 09:07

My lodger works in a nursery and starts around 07:30.

Her boss has messaged me this morning to ask me to get her to get in touch as she hasn't turned up for work.

I actually heard lodger getting up this morning, but then I went back to sleep.

Is it my business? I'm inclined to think not but then, if she's accidentally slept in she might appreciate me waking her up? I've only just seen the message so she's already very late.

Boss knows who I am as we're both in the same social group.

WWYD?

OP posts:
Stopsnowing · 11/05/2024 06:55

Sennelier1 · 10/05/2024 18:53

I had a lodger (long time ago), usually I had students but this one worked as a teacher. Think : pre-cellphone ages! One morning véry early I was called (landline) by the principal of the school where my lodger worked. I did complain, after all I was not my adult lodger's carer and the call woke me and two small children. Yes, lodger was very late for the bustrip with his class to Paris, but still, none of my business. My husband called the principal and told him to not use our private number any more, ever!

you are American? If this was pre cellphone (aka mobile) and your lodger loved in your home, did you not allow her to use your landline or at least expect that she could be reached on it in an emergency which this clearly was (not turning up in time for an international trip). Or did your lodger have a separate landline?

Whatinthedoopla · 11/05/2024 08:05

Why have you been contacted?

Are you her next of kin? If so, just knock and tell her you have been contacted by her manager.

If this is a message as a friend of the manager, she could be committing GDPR with telling you she isn't at work. I would respond back to this message asking she has been contacted, and it's none of her business

spritebottle · 11/05/2024 16:08

Stopsnowing · 11/05/2024 06:55

you are American? If this was pre cellphone (aka mobile) and your lodger loved in your home, did you not allow her to use your landline or at least expect that she could be reached on it in an emergency which this clearly was (not turning up in time for an international trip). Or did your lodger have a separate landline?

There aren't any buses that go from America to Paris fyi...

Lights22 · 11/05/2024 19:40

As always, I've not read all 9 pages but I have read all of OP's posts. Given it was a concern for welfare I don't see why it was even a question, surely you'd just knock and check everything's ok. You're not sticking your nose in, no asking for explanations, just showing care.

LakeSnake · 11/05/2024 22:17

FiatEarth · 09/05/2024 15:34

I reckon the boss called you because they didn't believe her when she called in sick and was hoping you'd say, 'She's fine, I can hear her break dancing in her room and she's going out this afternoon on a hot date!'

Actually I think this is exactly what happened.
esp if lodger is known to be ‘a bit if a fickle’

Francisflute · 11/05/2024 22:42

spritebottle · 10/05/2024 15:10

For being late to work/oversleeping for 20 mins? Look, I get it, at uni my flatmates and I used to rely on each other to drag each other out of bed on time... But now I don't want my landlord to chivvy me out of bed or have that level of personal involvement in my life. They are not my mother or husband

That was not the question at all.

Bamboobzled · 12/05/2024 17:30

fieldsofbutterflies · 09/05/2024 17:34

I know it's not a popular view on MN, but I suspect IRL, most people would just send a quick text to a colleague even if it was technically illegal.

But also, really bad traffic would reach social media and the news, so you'd know that Jane was coming from Smithtown and there'd been an accident so that probably explains the delay.

Speaking for yourself I think. Most people wouldn't be selfish and irresponsible.

Bamboobzled · 12/05/2024 17:33

spritebottle · 09/05/2024 22:22

Work attendance/absence info is explicitly listed as a GDPR example. Imagine if you weren't performing well at work and your boss just did a little "check-in" about you with your landlord on FB Messenger – would you be happy about that? As I said justifiable in an emergency but 20 mins late is not an emergency.

I don't want my boss getting my landlord, tenant/lodger, neighbour, postman, local shopkeeper, ex boyfriend, or any other randoms knocking on my room door or hovering over my bed every time I oversleep a little bit or am feeling a tiny bit poorly thanks, and this is the position the law would take as well.

Edited

Eurgh.

Bamboobzled · 12/05/2024 17:37

pinkstripeycat · 09/05/2024 18:21

No it’s not. Don’t be silly

Yes it is. Quit trying to be smart.

fieldsofbutterflies · 12/05/2024 17:41

Bamboobzled · 12/05/2024 17:30

Speaking for yourself I think. Most people wouldn't be selfish and irresponsible.

Judging by the number of people I see on their phones everyday while driving, I very much doubt that.

They could also (legally) ring in via hands-free if needed.

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 18:00

Bamboobzled · 12/05/2024 17:33

Eurgh.

You will actually eurgh when you have a boss like that, as I have

JudgeJ · 12/05/2024 19:00

spritebottle · 11/05/2024 16:08

There aren't any buses that go from America to Paris fyi...

But I would be willing to bet there's a Paris in the US somewhere! We love a little village Madrid in New Mexico.

Longdarkcloud · 12/05/2024 21:21

LakeSnake · 11/05/2024 22:17

Actually I think this is exactly what happened.
esp if lodger is known to be ‘a bit if a fickle’

My concern, being a true crime podcast follower, would be that she had left the house and had gone missing on the way to work. OP did not know for sure lodgers was still in her room.

RachaelT · 12/05/2024 22:55

I was once the boss in this situation:

Relatively new starter failed to show for shift, tried to contact them on details provided, no answer to voicemails or texts, after 2 hours and a couple of each form of contact I dug out their next of kin details. The NOK/sibling answered and I explained the situation, they said leave it with me and either one of us will update you.

Turned out they’d got another job that they felt was better and because they’d only worked a few shifts didn’t think to tell us. Oh and it was the sibling that told us this, the employee couldn’t even phone or message to apologise for the worry caused.

I expect a message from anyone running late, even if you’re driving Siri (or other AI) can send a brief “I’m running late”. Sickness should be reported an hour before start time. I would always investigate and peruse a no-show in case they are in danger or something worse and no-one has realised.

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 23:22

RachaelT · 12/05/2024 22:55

I was once the boss in this situation:

Relatively new starter failed to show for shift, tried to contact them on details provided, no answer to voicemails or texts, after 2 hours and a couple of each form of contact I dug out their next of kin details. The NOK/sibling answered and I explained the situation, they said leave it with me and either one of us will update you.

Turned out they’d got another job that they felt was better and because they’d only worked a few shifts didn’t think to tell us. Oh and it was the sibling that told us this, the employee couldn’t even phone or message to apologise for the worry caused.

I expect a message from anyone running late, even if you’re driving Siri (or other AI) can send a brief “I’m running late”. Sickness should be reported an hour before start time. I would always investigate and peruse a no-show in case they are in danger or something worse and no-one has realised.

Can you not see the difference between using officially provided NOK details to contact a no-show new starter 2h (or even 20mins) in & FB messaging an employee's landlord to go peek in their bedroom after a little over 15 mins of lateness??

Snowwhitedove · 13/05/2024 05:55

JudgeJ · 12/05/2024 19:00

But I would be willing to bet there's a Paris in the US somewhere! We love a little village Madrid in New Mexico.

There is - in Texas.

RachaelT · 13/05/2024 06:40

spritebottle · 12/05/2024 23:22

Can you not see the difference between using officially provided NOK details to contact a no-show new starter 2h (or even 20mins) in & FB messaging an employee's landlord to go peek in their bedroom after a little over 15 mins of lateness??

Do we know that the OP wasn’t given as NOK? Or maybe no NOK was officially given and in a panic the employer thought “who do I know that can tell me if this person is safe?”

Noodge · 13/05/2024 14:22

I don't know @RachaelT ! Maybe I should ask. As an aside lodger hasn't been back to work since and I haven't seen her.

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Noodge · 13/05/2024 14:27

And that is awful what your employee did. So disrespectful.

OP posts:
eggplant16 · 13/05/2024 15:03

So is a person missing?

SheepAndSword · 13/05/2024 15:13

eggplant16 · 13/05/2024 15:03

So is a person missing?

Oh - I wasn't expecting that. I have a relative who is sick quite frequently so I'm used to calling around hospitals.

Hope lodger shows up soon.

Justanothermum42 · 13/05/2024 15:30

Why would the nursery manager contact you? Your lodger is just that - a lodger. They are an adult so fully responsible for themselves. I’d stay out of it and ask said manager to deal with their employee directly and not involve you.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 13/05/2024 15:53

This thread reminded me of a very similar story many years ago. The employees flatmate was contacted by a co worker who heard there was going to be serious disciplinary consequences if they didn't make contact. Flatmate said employee hadn't slept in their bed the previous night, he sometimes stays with his girlfriend. Girlfriend was contacted and said he was having breakfast about to leave for work when she left. Then there were phonecalls to friends and hospitals and as the day went on it seemed he was missing and everyone was in a panic. Eventually the manager and a senior colleague drove to the girlfriends work place to get a key and onto her house, only to find poor fella locked in a small glass porch. He was fiddling with the porch handle when the door blew shut behind him and locked him out, he could hear the phone ringing all day!!

Noodge · 14/05/2024 12:11

Not missing! She's back now, had been staying at a friends and had taken another day off due to a relative being ill.
So all's well there.

@Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong (thanks for the earworm) that's quite funny and such an easy thing to have happen! My friend once left his girlfriend in his house, porch door on a yale lock and outer door to be left unlocked, so she could just let herself out. Only he absent-mindedly locked the outer door so she was locked in his porch for two hours until he arrived home from work.

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HelenTherese · 14/05/2024 16:21

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 09/05/2024 10:37

I'd block the boss from messaging you, highly unprofessional of them.

Twaddle. They’d just go and knock on the house door anyway if they didn’t phone and then the OP would have answered the door instead.

I hope none of the people on here who wouldn’t ‘get involved’ by knocking on a door never have anyone they care about living alone and dying because some one didn’t want to ‘get involved’.