Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.

[DuncinToffee]

prevoius thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5066068-thread-43-sunak-seriously-scapegoating?page=40&reply=135107360

Rishi right now...

Jess Phillips getting all the love on Twitter tonight for - checks notes- speaking up for women.

He has a plan and it isn’t working

It's quite exciting because now we hopefully have a situation where these men can't vote in Parliament...what will the Tories do? Isn't there something ridiculously high like 12% of the men in their party have been detained? I can't remember when I read that though (probably a few years ago!).

Just skimming past all of the old white Tories who voted no, to this unlikely candidate at the bottom, for Lib Dems!
"She currently undertakes the roles of Liberal Democrat Spokesperson (Women and Equalities)" https://members.parliament.uk/member/4634/contact/

@fabio12 I think it could further reduce their majority if there are MP’s still under investigation provided it is retrospective. They refused to carry on remote voting after COVID even for people who had good reason, so can hardly bring it back for MP’s under suspicion of sexual offences.

Bizarre.

🍾dances a jig

That's the trouble with being so pushy about people being back in the office! A real conflict of interest for them and their investors there.

It was a a LD amendment tabled by Wendy Chamberlain & co-signed by Jess Phillips, Stella Creasy and Chris Bryant

She will share the love

I feel sure she will. And extra bits to Chris Bryant after his announcement today.

I think it was Jess' barnstorming speech what done it.

No No No! remember she is a threat to women and children... keep with the script!!!

Rish! big speech didn't spend long on the BBC and is now ... well yesterdays chip wrappers.

I so much wanted Sunak to say we could have strong and stable with him or chaos with Starmer.

What do we want? We want... Not Rishi!

Indeed.

14 years into this journey with the Tories, basic mathematics suggests they will end up reusing slogans.

I guess that's their commitment to net zero ?

Rish! Tregeagle - sounds about right - condemned to knit sand into rope and empty Dozemary pool with a limpet shell.

R4 yesterday was saying that the Sunak speech makes him look like the politician and Starmer as someone getting on with the job...

No one is listening to the sTories anymore.

This isn't good news for the Tories.

If a "hold the press" event from Rish! (and it was certainly trailed as such in advance) can't hold the headlines for more than a few minutes, then they may have to start paying for coverage. (note to self: I must remember to look up "anathema" in the dictionary later)

The plan is working

ONS figures out today show

Unemployment up by 166,000 in the last 3 months
Youth unemployment up by 59,000 in the last 3 months
Employment down by 178,000 in the last 3 months

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c72ppz9xkz2o

None of the papers carried the speech on front page. Which gives me joy. No-one is listening.

Sorry - that's just a number soup. Means nothing.

For a start does "unemployment" include "youth unemployment" ?

And for a finish, either way (166,000+59,000) <> 178,000 or 166,000<>178,000

It's a bit like Shapps this morning, sort of golden era of shipbuilding, building 28 ships, uhm up to 28 ships, uhm up to 6 new ships

pledged by the government 2 years ago

You wouldn’t necessarily expect the figures to tie up though would you? Employment down I assume means a contraction in available jobs. How many people are then unemployed depends on how many there are needing to work, which is a figure which changes and isn’t linked to the number of jobs available directly (though whether it’s easy to find work can be, obviously).

My point - thank you for underscoring it - is that without context, the numbers and claims to make sense of them - are garbage.

full report

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/may2024

NEW: This parliament will see UK health spending grow by 2.4% a year in real terms: two-thirds of the historic average.

Spending in England has grown more slowly than plans implied at the last election.

THREAD on George Stoye @MaxWarnerIFS @BenZaranko's election briefing: [1/7]

https://x.com/TheIFS/status/1790296030321234329

Do you know if that includes any additional money spent during the pandemic? (Eg vaccines , PPE, staffing, ventilators)