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Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.

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DuncinToffee · 08/05/2024 09:00

prevoius thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5066068-thread-43-sunak-seriously-scapegoating?page=40&reply=135107360

Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.
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pointythings · 11/05/2024 13:43

I was also asleep and it was clear skies here (Suffolk). I'm miffed with myself, but I've had such a rough week I was just really tired.

SerendipityJane · 11/05/2024 13:50

Bedtime reading

Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.
DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 13:56

There is another chance to catch it tonight.

I am on dd/dh taxi duty so hopefully I will see some of it.

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L1ttledrummergirl · 11/05/2024 14:03

I was in a pub and probably wouldn't have noticed if it slapped me in the face. I've seen it before in the UK, it was green, ghostly and beautiful.

My dc and their friends, as well as the young people I work with are all excited about a change of government so my experience is also very different to @user8800.

Wouldn't it be nice if the government did something that meant people that harmed women were locked away for a very long time, rather than making the bar for and timescales involved so hard crimes may as well be decriminalised? This government wants to divert the legal system away from crime against British people to persecute people fleeing for their lives. That is unconscionable to most people.

pointythings · 11/05/2024 14:10

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 13:56

There is another chance to catch it tonight.

I am on dd/dh taxi duty so hopefully I will see some of it.

Right, that's me staying up then.

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 14:11

Apparently it is easier to see through a camera lens.

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SerendipityJane · 11/05/2024 14:23

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 14:11

Apparently it is easier to see through a camera lens.

Also if you film them. When I was in Iceland, I didn't really see them in person. But the stills and clips were astounding.

Notonthestairs · 11/05/2024 14:29

HannibalHeyes · 11/05/2024 14:14

Zahawi’s taxes weren’t in fact “fully declared and paid in the UK”. He was the beneficiary of an offshore structure, which he had used to obtain a tax advantage.6 We can discard the possibility this was an accident, or forgetfulness: at the time these claims were made, Zahawi was deep in negotiationswith HMRC to settle his unpaid tax, and pay a £1m penalty for negligence/carelessness.
So why hasn’t the SRA referred Osborne Clarke for making these false statements?
I believe there is only one reason: because Osborne Clarke didn’t know they were false; Zahawi had lied to his own lawyers.7.
So it may not be a coincidence that Zahawi announced he was standing down as an MP the day after the SRA’s decision.

Wow. 😮
Lying to his own solicitors.

BIossomtoes · 11/05/2024 14:34

Is anyone surprised? Because I’m not. But Angie’s £1500 …

Notonthestairs · 11/05/2024 14:47

Not surprised by the tax 'avoidance'.
But I am surprised he lied to his lawyers - not much point paying for advice based on an inaccurate position.
I suppose his priority was threatening Dan Neidle.

fabio12 · 11/05/2024 14:51

newnamethanks · 11/05/2024 11:25

Aside from the Westminster squabbles, quick derail, please excuse, did any of you see the Aurora last night? My stunned grandsons took some good photos but I can't get them off WhatsApp to upload. Hampshire.So far south. Never expected to see that here, although too old and tired to stay up and look at sky myself.

Yes, I was up and text about 5 friends to get them to take a picture too! It felt very weird seeing a vague haze with the naked eye then seeing the reality of vibrant colours on the phone! Ticks something of the bucket list!

@DuncinToffee interesting link on the school fees and something often on the threads about avoiding it. I think only parents who are using inheritance would be able to pay up front, so probably not many of those left at the majority of private schools. Downward mobility is more common these days. It's just a system that will push out the middle and lower middle and keep the rest, which I'm not sure is a good thing for the future - we've seen what happens when elite institutions aren't as accessible. Either way none of the parents I've encountered are doing any emergency planning yet although they expect Labour to get in. I think the idea is to wait and see if it is a priority, as it might take years to put into place and enforce. It might come in and close huge swathes of middle of the road privates down and create a bit more of an issue for the grammar areas. It's not going to get much back for the government but it will make a lot of grammar areas' house prices increase I suspect. Which is good for me I suppose!

dontcallmelen · 11/05/2024 15:55

I can’t figure out how to upload WA photos either, I was amazed considering the amount of light pollution here in SELondon could see a pink/purple haze my photos captured the colours much more clearly.
agree I crave boring, dull no drama HoC I’m not full of hope & the sheer joy of the 1997 election but if a Labour government at least try & serve the country have our best interests at heart & hopefully become a bit braver & bolder once they are elected that will do after 14 years of the diabolical shenanigans/lies/criminality of the Tory party.

IClaudine · 11/05/2024 17:27

This is a fun one. Wealthy foreign people fleeing the UK at the prospect of a Labour government.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5072059-wealth-is-draining-out-of-the-uk?page=1

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 17:28

I saw that one, poster namechanged or joined just for that Confused

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Zonder · 11/05/2024 17:29

IClaudine · 11/05/2024 17:27

This is a fun one. Wealthy foreign people fleeing the UK at the prospect of a Labour government.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5072059-wealth-is-draining-out-of-the-uk?page=1

Lots of foreigners leaving the UK - isn't that what people want? 😆

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 17:30

Will they call themselves economic immigrants 🤔

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IClaudine · 11/05/2024 17:34

DuncinToffee · 11/05/2024 17:28

I saw that one, poster namechanged or joined just for that Confused

There's a surprise!

newnamethanks · 11/05/2024 17:44

Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer, Angela Rayner, lied to her solicitors about her illegal attempt to avoid taxes. Oh, hang on. Sorry, that was Nadim Zahawi, Tory Chancellor. In which case, move along please, nothing to see here.

SerendipityJane · 11/05/2024 17:47

newnamethanks · 11/05/2024 17:44

Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer, Angela Rayner, lied to her solicitors about her illegal attempt to avoid taxes. Oh, hang on. Sorry, that was Nadim Zahawi, Tory Chancellor. In which case, move along please, nothing to see here.

I wonder if he lied to HMRC solicitors too ? It is starting too look like he can't get out of dodge fast enough.

I guess we could potentially find out what other citizenships he's stacked up for himself.

newnamethanks · 11/05/2024 18:09

Did I see Mr Zahawi in "Mr Bates v Post Office", playing himself, berating an official for lying to a parliamentary inquiry? I think I did. That's the standard of behaviour we've come to expect from a Tory minister. If Labour is only half as corrupt and devious as this shower, we'll still be winning. Shysters and chancers the lot of them, off the scale hypocrisy.

Notonthestairs · 11/05/2024 18:29

Pretty sure that is part of The Plan.

If you can't do a good job point the finger and pretend the problem lies elsewhere.

IClaudine · 11/05/2024 18:34

CCHQ definitely busy on MN today. I just spotted another thread by a shiny new poster. This time about people being too dependent on the state.

I am ignoring all such threads from now on.

Zonder · 11/05/2024 18:39

IClaudine · 11/05/2024 18:34

CCHQ definitely busy on MN today. I just spotted another thread by a shiny new poster. This time about people being too dependent on the state.

I am ignoring all such threads from now on.

I think that's wise. It's so easy to waste loads of time on them. Although I do then end up thinking "But people might believe them and vote Tory!"

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