Thread 44 Sunak: Hung parliament and Rishful thinking.

[DuncinToffee]

prevoius thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5066068-thread-43-sunak-seriously-scapegoating?page=40&reply=135107360

That’s my rationale! And I do like a good argument. 😂

No one anywhere is changing their vote to Tory because of some shite on Mumsnet.

However, a lot of people who are already going to vote Tory are probably scouring MN for the fig leaf to salve their conscience about voting Tory, rather than facing up to the fact they aren't very nice people.

Wow.

Yes, some truth in that. I can't understand why any decent person would vote for this version of the Tories.

meanwhile, in SRA land ...

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/solicitors-regulator-launches-investigation-akhmed-29146238

Why wow? What moral and ethical argument is there for voting for the current iteration of the Tories? Even my card carrying Party member cousin is not voting for them this time, her MP is Liz Truss.

Maybe someone should bring out a TouchyFeely book.

That’s not my Tory, his tax evasion is too blatant

That’s not my Tory, his racism is too obvious

That’s not my Tory, his moral compass is too fucked

That’s not my Tory, his Face Eating Leopard tendencies are too……AAAAAARGH!

Maybe Greengablesfables is not used to MN yet

@DuncinToffee I’ve been here a long time. But NC often.

@pointythings

‘..rather than facing up to the fact they aren't very nice people’

Was rather a sweeping statement.

And an accurate one if some recent threads are any indication.

Yes, indeed.

In case it hadn't been clear which it was the reference and inference was about those who still choose to vote for the Conservative Party as it currently manifests (and the pun is intentional ). It has explicitly sown itself to be the "nasty" party (viz, the recent proposed changes to PIP, sick notes anc, of course, the Rwanda Bill )

There are (or were - many of them got kicked out the party) some Conservatives who are decent people, who just have a different view to me about how best to help the nation rather than themselves and their cronies

Personally, I still have a belief in societal responsibility and to help those less fortunate than me.

Yep.

Perfectly put, prettybird

Labour is a nasty party if one is using broken promises for disabled people as a yardstick. They dropped their pledge on this. They are also betraying women and children of course, that’s nasty too. Also forcing many SEN kids to move schools, seems to be collateral damage in their quest to people please. So no Labour voters certainly can’t rest easy thinking they’ve nice people.

Sounds strange doesn’t it? Smearing people’s characters based on who they may or may not vote for. Simplistic almost.

Wasn’t it Theresa May who dubbed the Tories the “nasty party”? That was in 2002 when they were still relatively civilised.

The difference is we haven't seen all labours policies yet because their manifesto isn't published. Whereas we have seen the deep nastiness of the current Tory party policies.

So you're upset about private school tax and something vague about women and children?

I think if you have been on this series of threads for any length of time, you will see that some of us feel that there are areas of Labour's policies which are a bit concerning.

But the Tories in their current incarnation are something else. It is not just us saying this in a Mumsnet echo chamber. It is their own MPs, past and present. I think anyone who votes for them at this point in time really needs to take a long, hard look at themselves and ask why.

Good to meet you greengables. My kid had a two year wait for a place at an SN school (despite everyone saying that was what she needed)
Where were your posts about funding SN schools then?
Care to share your previous usernames?

Please ignore my request greengablesfables.
It looks like you've been on MN for 3 days and have a particular interest in private schools.
Thks.

What request?

Your investigative skills are second to many.

Yes. Utterly vague. You’ve hit the nail on the head there. So to speak.

Your investigative skills are certainly better than the government's @Notonthestairs.

How are labour « forcing » SEN children to move schools? Do you mean to a more suitable provision?

Education, under last Labour gov, was far more inclusive than this sad shadow of a system we now have.