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Being rich & thin

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User14March · 05/05/2024 16:29

Why are all the women in the smart, rich set thin enough for couture? Reading mag with ‘society pages’. Princess Beatrice in their ranks. Geri Halliwell etc. They always seem to be at lunches & dinners, parties, yet no one is even a UK size 10. What’s the secret or are they all far better disciplined than most?

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IglesiasPiggl · 06/05/2024 17:57

These women have been attending big social events since their teens, and it's usually a case of conditioning themselves not to eat at them. They have a couple of mouthfuls and leave the rest. When your social desirability depends on you being thin, it's easier to do, especially if all your friends do the same.

hendoop · 06/05/2024 18:04

But it isn't actually hard to be slim, society has just normalised being overweight and an unhealthy lifestyle

Crap food is cheaper and they have money to eat healthy and have the time or help to make their food delicious.

They won't be sedentary in office jobs and have the time to work out etc

Also being happier makes you binge less and having no financial stress must help

I am in shape - for my sport, I train 2 hours a day and eat 2000 calories, am a size 8 and which is ridiculous as in the 90's I would have been a 10-12 but sizing has changed. If I didn't put the time into my nutrition and training I would be significantly bigger

LipstickedPowderedAndPainted · 06/05/2024 18:14

User14March · 06/05/2024 07:06

@potato57 how common are weight loss injections, amongst those that don’t need them, in the ‘smart set’ in UK do you think?

You are supposed to be obese?

I know a lady, extremely wealthy, definitely posh and now very very thin. She started the injections when she was overweight but has just continued. She's so thin now she looks ill. I'm thin, I come from a world of dancers so thin/slim is not uncommon to me but she's skinny. She was told she was malnourished, anaemic and deficient in loads of things after about a year on these injections. Doctors forced her to stop immediately. She says a a soon as she puts anything back in she'll go on then again. I don't understand this at all.
What I have learned is that if you are VERY rich, as opposed to wealthy you pay multiple doctors ( and there are some id consuderate less scrupulous ones from what I've heard ). By accessing only private health's there isnt necessarily a centralised record of your condition, meds, consultants etc. She obtains far far in excess of many medications than would be prescribed ( ie gets the she scripts for the she drugs from different doctors)by setting multiple doctors and not telling them about each other- I'm not sure about the weight loss stuff but definitely other things. If you are hell bent and have the money there is often a way around things. I find that frightening to be honest.

wompwomp · 06/05/2024 18:20

@MsLuxLisbon

A 6 is a 2. US sizes.
That is true. But as the poster was making references to UK sizes it's not really relevant

wompwomp · 06/05/2024 18:31

hendoop · 06/05/2024 18:04

But it isn't actually hard to be slim, society has just normalised being overweight and an unhealthy lifestyle

Crap food is cheaper and they have money to eat healthy and have the time or help to make their food delicious.

They won't be sedentary in office jobs and have the time to work out etc

Also being happier makes you binge less and having no financial stress must help

I am in shape - for my sport, I train 2 hours a day and eat 2000 calories, am a size 8 and which is ridiculous as in the 90's I would have been a 10-12 but sizing has changed. If I didn't put the time into my nutrition and training I would be significantly bigger

How old are you?

Beatrixslobber · 06/05/2024 18:38

Drebara · 06/05/2024 17:37

Yes, sorry, not concentrating as I typed...

Still wrong. She said, "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" although she didn’t invent the phrase. It’s an ED quote that came along well before KM. She just got loads of shit for it her saying it in an interview.

OneBadKitty · 06/05/2024 19:11

So what exactly is the nutritionally rich food that wealthy women are supposedly eating which makes them so slim and never fancy junk food that the average woman can't afford?

Rippledipple · 06/05/2024 19:38

OneBadKitty · 06/05/2024 19:11

So what exactly is the nutritionally rich food that wealthy women are supposedly eating which makes them so slim and never fancy junk food that the average woman can't afford?

My diet is high in protein, fish, eggs, beans, nuts, seeds. Nutritionally rich so eaten in small quantities. Fruit and veg of course, carbs but fairly minimal ie carbs do not make up the bulk of my diet. Sweet treats are minimal - once or twice a week. I rarely drink.

I don't think anything there is unaffordable. The protein is expensive compared to carbs but the portions required will be much smaller. There's a lot more profit selling nutritionally empty shit to people knowing an hour later, they'll be back for more.

Culturally we've lost our way. The majority don't even know what healthy eating looks like, that much is evident from many posts on here. Not judging, it's just sad because the all the crap is actually quite expensive. Bag of crisps cost three times what an egg does, crisps - I'd be starving after half an hour, egg- full for at least half the day.

Kneidlach · 06/05/2024 19:59

@Rippledipple Really - one egg would fill you up for half a day?!

hendoop · 06/05/2024 21:11

I am 41

Fizbosshoes · 06/05/2024 21:17

Rippledipple · 06/05/2024 19:38

My diet is high in protein, fish, eggs, beans, nuts, seeds. Nutritionally rich so eaten in small quantities. Fruit and veg of course, carbs but fairly minimal ie carbs do not make up the bulk of my diet. Sweet treats are minimal - once or twice a week. I rarely drink.

I don't think anything there is unaffordable. The protein is expensive compared to carbs but the portions required will be much smaller. There's a lot more profit selling nutritionally empty shit to people knowing an hour later, they'll be back for more.

Culturally we've lost our way. The majority don't even know what healthy eating looks like, that much is evident from many posts on here. Not judging, it's just sad because the all the crap is actually quite expensive. Bag of crisps cost three times what an egg does, crisps - I'd be starving after half an hour, egg- full for at least half the day.

How are you working out crisps v eggs?

Eggs are around 1.80- 2.10 for 6 so 30-35p each

A multipack of crisps (6 packets) is around £2....so probably a similar cost

Neither would fill me up for half a day

Worthitforthe · 06/05/2024 21:25

BloodyHellKenAgain · 06/05/2024 10:52

Some people are naturally slim and some are not. I suspect a lot is down to genes and the sort of diet they eat.
I am in my mid 50s, 3 children and still a size 10 in most shops.
I have never had an eating disorder or taken cocaine FGS !!!
I just don't eat many takeaways/fast food or much other filth. Maybe once a year fast food if driving long distance.
I am not surviving on lettuce either. I just eat a relatively, healthy diet of normal adult proportions and I enjoy walking for exercise.

You're a size 10, that's not thin though is it

Worthitforthe · 06/05/2024 21:28

wompwomp · 06/05/2024 14:25

She is really is

No she's not thin in those photos. The facial one at the beginning of the thread she was far more so though.

Worthitforthe · 06/05/2024 21:34

Rippledipple · 06/05/2024 19:38

My diet is high in protein, fish, eggs, beans, nuts, seeds. Nutritionally rich so eaten in small quantities. Fruit and veg of course, carbs but fairly minimal ie carbs do not make up the bulk of my diet. Sweet treats are minimal - once or twice a week. I rarely drink.

I don't think anything there is unaffordable. The protein is expensive compared to carbs but the portions required will be much smaller. There's a lot more profit selling nutritionally empty shit to people knowing an hour later, they'll be back for more.

Culturally we've lost our way. The majority don't even know what healthy eating looks like, that much is evident from many posts on here. Not judging, it's just sad because the all the crap is actually quite expensive. Bag of crisps cost three times what an egg does, crisps - I'd be starving after half an hour, egg- full for at least half the day.

Full for half a day on an egg 🥚 😳

nothingsforgotten · 06/05/2024 22:40

Bennybeatbots · 06/05/2024 09:18

I fell down a rabbit hole the other week watching old 60, 70, 80s UK tv adverts - there were some very thin women compared to todays standards and it noticeably stood out to me. Watch some old Ryvita adverts!

I don't need to watch Ryvita adverts - I was there!!!!

Obviously there weren't the sheer number of large women that there are now, and the average person was thinner, but to insist that NOBODY was on the large size is sheer rubbish. People baked, ate puddings, ate for morning/afternoon tea regularly. I can think of one farming family with a mother who was a fantastic cook and baker - the whole family was very large, and that was in the 60s/70s. There were girls at my (small) school who could never be described as thin.

wompwomp · 06/05/2024 23:21

hendoop · 06/05/2024 21:11

I am 41

I hope you won't find this happens but post menopause has been a different existence to before.
I train 6 days a week and also go on long walks most days. I have had to cut down so dramatically on food and be so selective on what I eat that no one would call it 'easy'. I don't want to get fat yet the weight has crept on and every year I have to do a rather dramatic weight loss routine for about a month to lose the winter creep.

This may not happen to you but it happens to enough women for me to say you are wrong. It's not 'easy'

WithACatLikeTread · 07/05/2024 06:58

Just going to say you can be slim and eat. I do hate this presumption that slim means not eating very much.

GreatSquareNova · 07/05/2024 07:06

wompwomp · 06/05/2024 23:21

I hope you won't find this happens but post menopause has been a different existence to before.
I train 6 days a week and also go on long walks most days. I have had to cut down so dramatically on food and be so selective on what I eat that no one would call it 'easy'. I don't want to get fat yet the weight has crept on and every year I have to do a rather dramatic weight loss routine for about a month to lose the winter creep.

This may not happen to you but it happens to enough women for me to say you are wrong. It's not 'easy'

It has happened to me too. 50 and I can’t consume one calorie north of 1300 a day or I will put weight on. I exercise Monday to Friday.

User14March · 07/05/2024 07:12

@WithACatLikeTread of course, but ‘society pages’ thin or sample size, couture thin? Post meno? Someone upthread suggested that Geri H’s solo career peaked & succeeded for a while in the 90s as she’d reached a holy grail body wise & it wouldn’t have happened otherwise. It conferred higher social status.

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User14March · 07/05/2024 07:14

@GreatSquareNova were you on the slimmer side of average out of interest in late teens early 20s?

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GreatSquareNova · 07/05/2024 07:18

User14March · 07/05/2024 07:14

@GreatSquareNova were you on the slimmer side of average out of interest in late teens early 20s?

I was tiny, and now I feel like I didn’t appreciate it at all! Size 6 until about mid 20s, then size 8 until recently. I now need to fight my way down from a 10.

User14March · 07/05/2024 07:25

@GreatSquareNova not scientific I think (?) but I see this disproportionately for those who were ‘effortlessly’ very slim, more so than peers of similar height, at around 16-30. Curiously though with a chubbier than average early adolescence around 13-15.

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Doingmybest12 · 07/05/2024 07:59

WithACatLikeTread · 07/05/2024 06:58

Just going to say you can be slim and eat. I do hate this presumption that slim means not eating very much.

Yes, but often people who think they eat a lot and are slim ,actually don't eat much overall compared to bigger people. Or they don't eat more when they are stressed , or they smoke instead or they naturally prefer less fattening foods , or are not snackers , or are just snackers and don't eat big meals as well, they only take one biscuit not six, or they don't really enjoy food so not bothered.

WithACatLikeTread · 07/05/2024 09:08

Doingmybest12 · 07/05/2024 07:59

Yes, but often people who think they eat a lot and are slim ,actually don't eat much overall compared to bigger people. Or they don't eat more when they are stressed , or they smoke instead or they naturally prefer less fattening foods , or are not snackers , or are just snackers and don't eat big meals as well, they only take one biscuit not six, or they don't really enjoy food so not bothered.

No I am a pig! 🐷 The presumption that most skinny people don't eat is as insulting as saying all fat people eat too much.

WithACatLikeTread · 07/05/2024 09:09

Yeah and I would eat six biscuits.