Being rich & thin

[User14March]

Why are all the women in the smart, rich set thin enough for couture? Reading mag with ‘society pages’. Princess Beatrice in their ranks. Geri Halliwell etc. They always seem to be at lunches & dinners, parties, yet no one is even a UK size 10. What’s the secret or are they all far better disciplined than most?

You can be slimmer than a size 10 and fit, not all of your mass at a size 10 will be fitness based, it just means you didn't get yourself to a lower BF %. I cut down to around 15% BF while weightlifting for aesthetic purposes and sit at around a size 4-6 at 5'9 and I'm perfectly healthy, still get a regular menstrual cycle and don't feel hunger pangs. If you're used to eating in excess, you'll feel hungry. Most slim people probably do one meal a day and are used to it.
If you're getting all of your nutrient groups and micronutrients on a small amount of calories there's nothing unhealthy about eating a small amount, it's that when most people starve themselves to lose weight they eat small portions of unhealthy things and that will make you feel like shit.

This is exactly me. It just doesn't have much appeal, and the feeling of being full if i do have a big meal is so unpleasant it's something I wouldn't purposefully do.
I know that many pepole are really into food, I just don't get it personally, there's no allure, dancing on the other hand, I'm all over it. Different strokes and an that.

Goof?? (That was indeed a ‘goof’ on my part 😂)

I’m not remotely naturally thin. When I was very thin and worked in a job that involved going to those sorts of celeb/socialite function things everyone did the same thing - picked the healthiest starter and ate that then just ate the vegetables and a bite or two of the main. A lot of sparkling water and black coffee.

I’m ’slim’ but I have to be careful now in my mid 40s. I avoid carbohydrates and sugar as much as I can and if I start adding stuff in, a slice of cake here, a packet of crisps there. It shows.

These well known lot will be even stricter and it’s takes a lot of effort.

Im in hospital at the moment and every meal offered is sugar cereal or white carbs.

Geri Horner has admitted to eating disorders.

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia your appetite drops off a cliff after a few days of barely eating. Maybe those that barely eat hunger vanishes?

@potato57 how common are weight loss injections, amongst those that don’t need them, in the ‘smart set’ in UK do you think?

You are supposed to be obese?

This.

A lot of women i know ike this who arent celebrities essentially have a finely controlled eating disorder and normally either had or at least flirted with EDs it in their teens. They keep their weight just above eating disorder territory/ at minimum healthy weight.
A lot are vegan, or have "allergies" that aupport their restricted eating.

We go to restaurants and its always "the lamb looks good but sounds toooo rich! I think ill go for something lighter like the (steamed) fish and ask for sauce on the side"
Or they order starters as mains.

Not to say oh everyone should be fat. But often they are ULTRA disciplined and its an ingrained habit set in teen years.

Literally a complete mystery. Mind you, I don’t see them dropping in to Macdonald’s on the way home, or buying pizzas for dinner, or a Greggs sausage roll for the train journey, or scoffing a packet of jammy dodgers while lying on the sofa watching TV. Like I say, otherwise a complete mystery though.

I worked with someone who was beautiful and very slim, clothes always looked lovely on her. She said she ate like a horse. She didn't. She was very disciplined , always had home made soup, small portion , small piece of wholemeal bread ,half a slice , no butter. Maybe a few cherry tomatoes . Her version of blow out was having half of a muffin one day. Very disciplined with exercise and the rest of her life. So that's the difference. She was eating only what she needed and very sensibly. Work meal out always sea bass and vegetables. I think what we consider a starvation diet has changed as we have so much access to food.

@Doingmybest12 if she was vigorously working out daily surely that’s too few calories if good quality nutrition?

She had breakfast and dinner as well. That's what I saw at work. I didn't say she vigorously worked out daily, just disciplined about exercising. I'm just pointing out different habits and attitudes. Not advocating it but neither would I advocate my diet of extra cheese and biscuits last night, or the big duty free Toblerone I had this week over 3 nights, or the couple of packets of crisps extra , or the pastry I had at work as a treat.

Sorry editing as I can now see original post reads like that's all she had all day, which yes would not be healthy. Thanks for spotting the actually.

Well said. I was around 30, 40, and 50 years ago and of course not every woman was thin. There is always a lot of nonsense spouted when it comes to discussions on weight on MN.

@Doingmybest12 I understand, yes agree.

A lot of them don't actually eat the food! They pick at it & stick to the healthier parts of the food. Have you ever seen them with an empty plate? It's an old trick.

That’s that point though, you don’t maintain a weight at or below underweight BMI without suffering for it.

I think some people do...but they are in a minority! I have a friend who eats fairly normally and does no exercise and is bmi around 18. She doesn't look gaunt or bony. All her family are very slim with a small frame.

That's different imo from people (who often pop up on similar threads) who insist they are naturally a size 4-6 but conveniently their favourite things are salad and ice cubes, they dont have a sweet tooth and they love to exercise for 2 hrs every day

Ozempic. They’re getting even thinner.

@Sadza don't you have to be obese to start with? If it becomes 'easy' amongst this demographic {I know not 'easy' etc, but in this context) will something else take over as social, high status, holy grail?

I think it would be very easy to be thin if you were rich:
you can have what you want so delicious food isn’t a treat.
you probably have a chef planning your meals (with your consultation) so you can eat healthily with no effort (no panic ready meals because you are dashing about between kid’s activities or chips because you live miles from anywhere selling veg and you don’t drive).
you can easily have lovely clothes and they look better on thin people .
everyone you know is thin so it is normal.
you have time and money to do what ever spirt you want - it’s probably a big part of your social life.
it’s increasingly a status symbol.

you also see very few overweight children in expensive schools.

Wegovy
Cocaine

Being painfully thin has been a status flag for a long time though.

Sometimes I don't think the rich have enough hardship in their lives to make it interesting. The need to seek it out to get that adrenaline hit of reaching a goal and that must become increasingly hard when wealth knocks down all the challenges.

But mounting an assault on your body through extreme measures is a personal achievement that cannot be chalked up to money in a simple sense. You still have to have the discipline to forgo nice food and work hard in the gym, or submit your body to the cascade of side effects of jacking the system to lose weight chemically.

And you can see this in other ways too. Why the fuck are you climbing Mount Everest, what are you getting out of it beyond subjecting yourself to hardship for the sheer sport of it?

Why are you flying that tiny little plane for a hobby when every other week one is dropping out of the sky with rich people who were too bored to take a regular safe flight?

The say youth is wasted on the young and perhaps money is wasted on the wealthy.

I fell down a rabbit hole the other week watching old 60, 70, 80s UK tv adverts - there were some very thin women compared to todays standards and it noticeably stood out to me. Watch some old Ryvita adverts!

@Bennybeatbots so many more smoked, sure less processed rubbish etc, as is so often said, but that, big time, that.

@Desecratedcoconut what an interesting post. In Asia, re: 'other high status stuff' I saw it with kids and languages etc, the transplanted Americans, could they bring back some kind of intellectual drive? 'Make' their kids intellectually hungry, fluent in other 'difficult' language with a native speaker from birth, instil a work ethic DESPITE being UHNW or similar. Keeping kids 'on' the rails and culturally superior to those USAs back 'home'. Etc. One upmanship of a different kind, a scarcity, but ultimately beneficial. Also keeping the kids cool, sporty, musical, fashionable, aesthetically pleasing, the odd earlyish tweak with plastic surgery if needs be etc. When I have rarely observed this I thought it was interesting and admirable, perhaps (?) (the intellectual seeking part) perhaps money not wasted on this kind of 'wealthy'?