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Surely this is just human nature or has everyone become unkind

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Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 13:40

Went to see challenges at the cinema it’s obviously a longish film over two hours. Once it had finished there was a massive queue for the toilets as I think another film ended around the same time. A young woman entered the toilet clearly overtly desperate for a wee legs crossed etc. I said the poor girl could obviously go in front of me only for the woman behind me to get very cross with me. Surely it’s just human nature if you see someone more in need you help? Like if someone was starving hungry I would give them my food even if I was also hungry.

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Kalevala · 05/05/2024 19:53

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:45

Because I just feel you must feel pretty desperate and in pain to cry

No, some people will cry over the tiniest thing. Some people will rarely cry.

Kalevala · 05/05/2024 19:55

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:48

Would you honestly not let someone skip?

🧱

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 19:55

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 16:19

Not really I’m autistic so struggle unless it’s very obvious

Ah there it is. Explains why you can't see what people are telling you. You can give up your place and go to the back . You can let someone in front if you are the only other person in the queue. You cannot let someone in front of you and push everyone else back 1. That was not your decision to make.
If someone had come in with a child who was desperate would you have let them in too. If the desperate to pee woman has 2 friends who suddenly appeared and were equally desperate would you have let them in ?

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 19:57

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:22

She was on the verge of tears etc. also wasn’t even using her phone or talking to her friends.

Oh wow she was good. Shame Oscars aren't awarded for this

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:57

Kalevala · 05/05/2024 19:52

I just don’t agree with people saying a woman who was clearly in need wasn’t.

I'm not saying she wasn't in need, I don't think others were saying that either. She may have been exaggerating her need, some people will cry over anything. Or she may have been desperate but others in the queue may have also been desperate. Acting like a cartoon character who needs the loo does not equal greater need.

Bit harsh to say she was acting like a carton character as you said in past replies different people manage their needs in different ways

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Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:58

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 19:55

Ah there it is. Explains why you can't see what people are telling you. You can give up your place and go to the back . You can let someone in front if you are the only other person in the queue. You cannot let someone in front of you and push everyone else back 1. That was not your decision to make.
If someone had come in with a child who was desperate would you have let them in too. If the desperate to pee woman has 2 friends who suddenly appeared and were equally desperate would you have let them in ?

A child definitely yes

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Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:58

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 19:57

Oh wow she was good. Shame Oscars aren't awarded for this

Bit harsh

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Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 19:58

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:48

Would you honestly not let someone skip?

I wouldn't make a unilateral decision for a whole load of people that I don't know their individual circumstances for, no. Especially regarding something like toileting.

If it was just me in the queue with no one behind and someone was desperate, then yes. Because that was my decision to make and I'm the only one effected by it

And I'm autistic too.

BTW That kind of repetitive post is what I meant by the 'yeah but...' type of post above

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:59

AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 19:57

Oh wow she was good. Shame Oscars aren't awarded for this

That’s implying she was faking it when she clearly wasn’t

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Kalevala · 05/05/2024 20:01

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:57

Bit harsh to say she was acting like a carton character as you said in past replies different people manage their needs in different ways

You seem to only recognise the image of the person crossing their legs and dancing about like a cartoon character as need.

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:01

Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 19:58

I wouldn't make a unilateral decision for a whole load of people that I don't know their individual circumstances for, no. Especially regarding something like toileting.

If it was just me in the queue with no one behind and someone was desperate, then yes. Because that was my decision to make and I'm the only one effected by it

And I'm autistic too.

BTW That kind of repetitive post is what I meant by the 'yeah but...' type of post above

As I’ve said I made a decision at the time based on her I didn’t think of the others which was wrong

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Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:02

Kalevala · 05/05/2024 20:01

You seem to only recognise the image of the person crossing their legs and dancing about like a cartoon character as need.

She wasn’t dancing and crossing legs is pretty normal I do it myself sometimes doesn’t mean I’m trying to queue jump, she could have just have asked she wouldn’t need to put on an act

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AngelinaFibres · 05/05/2024 20:04

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 19:59

That’s implying she was faking it when she clearly wasn’t

Sorry but you are desperately naive

Kalevala · 05/05/2024 20:04

Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 19:58

I wouldn't make a unilateral decision for a whole load of people that I don't know their individual circumstances for, no. Especially regarding something like toileting.

If it was just me in the queue with no one behind and someone was desperate, then yes. Because that was my decision to make and I'm the only one effected by it

And I'm autistic too.

BTW That kind of repetitive post is what I meant by the 'yeah but...' type of post above

I'm autistic too. I can see the fixation, there's no getting through.

Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 20:09

Kalevala · 05/05/2024 20:04

I'm autistic too. I can see the fixation, there's no getting through.

😁

Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 20:10

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:01

As I’ve said I made a decision at the time based on her I didn’t think of the others which was wrong

You literally just said to me 'but would you honestly not let her go in front?' and I was answering you

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 05/05/2024 20:11

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 16:10

As I said I did look around to see how the others were coping no one looked as distressed as this girl.

Noting here that I get punished for trying to stay dignified when my back teeth are floating.

RedMark · 05/05/2024 20:13

Thing is though, how do you know the people behind you aren't desperate either?
I have a weak bladder and I don't hope around / cross my legs because it doesn't help. I just stand there very still.
I'd be pissed off if someone in front of me was letting people go in front without asking me first.

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:14

RedMark · 05/05/2024 20:13

Thing is though, how do you know the people behind you aren't desperate either?
I have a weak bladder and I don't hope around / cross my legs because it doesn't help. I just stand there very still.
I'd be pissed off if someone in front of me was letting people go in front without asking me first.

Ironically I let the moaning woman go in front of so she was okay when it was her skipping! Because I needed to check on the poor woman she had a go at.

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Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:14

RedMark · 05/05/2024 20:13

Thing is though, how do you know the people behind you aren't desperate either?
I have a weak bladder and I don't hope around / cross my legs because it doesn't help. I just stand there very still.
I'd be pissed off if someone in front of me was letting people go in front without asking me first.

They could have just said sorry I’m desperate to don’t let her skip

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MargaretThursday · 05/05/2024 20:16

I am a lot more sceptical since during lockdown I was at work but we had the doors locked to stop people wandering in and out.
Someone rang the doorbell, and I answered it, and they were jumping up and down, crossing their legs etc, and asked to use the toilet. I said that I wasn't allowed to let anyone in, however the public toilets behind were now open. They are literally about 5m away from the entrance. She looked over at them, humphed very loudly, and walked off in the opposite direction without a second glance, crossing her legs or jumping.

She clearly wasn't as desperate as all that because the direction she walked off in, there are no public toilets for at least 2-3 miles.

Obetwitgree · 05/05/2024 20:17

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:14

Ironically I let the moaning woman go in front of so she was okay when it was her skipping! Because I needed to check on the poor woman she had a go at.

The only ironic thing that you're missing is... She wasn't skipping... She was getting her place in the queue back

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 05/05/2024 20:18

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:14

They could have just said sorry I’m desperate to don’t let her skip

Then you would’ve come on here bitching that she clearly needed to go more then them because she was crossing her legs and how selfish everyone is 🙄

Lovetoshop778 · 05/05/2024 20:19

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 05/05/2024 20:18

Then you would’ve come on here bitching that she clearly needed to go more then them because she was crossing her legs and how selfish everyone is 🙄

I wouldn’t have I wouldn’t have let her skip if people had politely said something

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 05/05/2024 20:21

OP made a mistake but the woman who complained and complained was rude too. And I think, having read all OP's updates, that OP understands her error now: you can swap places with someone else in the queue without affecting others, but you shouldn't let people jump the queue because it affects the whole queue.

I'm also autistic and I know how bad it feels when you break a social rule because you thought it didn't matter because you didn't understand the reasoning behind. Just don't do it again.