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My lodger has stolen some expensive foundation

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Pistachiovillian · 29/04/2024 09:19

I've had the lodger about 3 months now.

I had some expensive foundation that I'd been saving as a gift to give to someone as I seldom wear it. It wasn't with my other make-up, that's all in the bathroom-it was still in its box, in the kitchen along with some other little bits I've saved up. It has been there for months.

Yesterday morning when I got up she'd already left the house and the bottle was in the bathroom near the mirror, where I'd normally put my make-up on and had obviously been used.

Last night I found the crumpled-up box on the stairs to her room.

I know It's 'just' a bottle of foundation. But it was expensive foundation (about £50 worth) that I'd felt I didn't want to just use myself. She'd have known it was expensive too.

It was obviously not with my other make-up, which I may have not been bothered if she'd used-I do have some foundation in the bathroom, obviously half-used, that she could have used as I do wear it occasionally and I'd have probably not even noticed that!

For what It's worth, I do have a bit of an issue with dealing with this sort of thing, confronting people, I never know how annoyed I am supposed to be! Childhood issue.

I do feel disrespected though. I'd never take something of someone else's without asking unless I 100% knew that they'd be okay with it! And if she's taken that, what else might she take going forward?

What would you feel about this? And do?

OP posts:
Ohnobackagain · 29/04/2024 13:07

@Pistachiovillian it wouldn’t matter how low value the item she had taken. If you take what’s not yours without asking then it’s bang out of order. Doesn’t matter if someone works there. I’d be concerned about trusting her at all!

maudelovesharold · 29/04/2024 13:08

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 29/04/2024 10:40

“Hi X. I’m quite upset that you opened and used this new foundation of mine. It was intended as a present for someone and will need to be replaced.”

Do not muddy the waters talking about it being a present. Not relevant.

Thanks for the copy editing! Grin

Gettingonmygoat · 29/04/2024 13:10

Changingplace · 29/04/2024 09:23

That’s really rude! I’m also not good at confrontation but I’d have to say something here - I’d have the bottle & crumpled box out and just say, ‘this was for a gift, why have you used it, I’ll need you to replace it’

And then just let her speak, don’t fill the silence. Cheeky cow!

It is not just rude, it's theft.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 29/04/2024 13:11

Compsearch · 29/04/2024 12:39

I think you need to ask her to replace it and see how she reacts to that first. It’s just possible she will have some kind of excuse - maybe had run out and desperately needed it for some important reason like a job interview and was stressed about that so hadn’t had time to message you - if you buy whatever she says and she is sufficiently apologetic then the relationship may be salvageable.

But if she’s the kind of person who thinks she can just help herself to your stuff then fundamentally you can’t let her continue living in your home.

That’s a rubbish excuse, had to borrow it for a job interview!

OP should be able to leave what she likes, where she likes in her own home, in the safe knowledge that someone else won’t touch it (or use it). This would apply to a visitor to the house too.

Regardless of whether lodger knows OP got this foundation at a reduced price from her DP, she should never have assumed to have opened or used it without checking with OP first. If she’d wanted to buy the foundation at cost price surely she should’ve asked OP about that or if OP’s DP could get another cheap foundation (cost price) for her too.

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:13

I kind of think she thought it was spare - a used bottle left on the fridge for months? Did you tell her you were saving it for a purpose after you'd opened it? It's weird she took it though, I wouldn't want someone old used foundation !

Newestname002 · 29/04/2024 13:14

SuncreamAndIceCream · 29/04/2024 09:21

I would ask for the money back and if that wasn't immediately forthcoming I'd be giving her notice to move out.

She is a thief. What else has she helped herself to that's yours?

Put the request for the money in writing so if (when) she admits to have "borrowed" it you have an audit trail for keeping £50 back from her deposit on departure. 🌹

FearYeTheDeadlyBisonAndItsToxicYogurt · 29/04/2024 13:19

BreakfastAtMimis · 29/04/2024 09:58

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, OK, she shouldn't have used it but it was foundation that you got for free/cheap and had left lying around and clearly weren't using. I can see why she thought it was something you wouldn't be bothered if she helped herself to.

What utter nonsense. I'm not using my car or my credit card at the moment, but that does not make these things fair game for any CF who happens to wander past.

Haretodayswantomorrow · 29/04/2024 13:21

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 29/04/2024 12:56

Blimey, she must be a helluva fast knitter if you didn’t realise she’d taken it till after the jumper was finished!

Surely the solution was just to unravel the knitting as soon as you saw she’d started?

Edited

But this hypothetical yarn was FREE and I wasn’t using it yet so it’s TOTALLY fine for others to help themselves and I should not be aggrieved about it.

ShadesofPoachedSmoke · 29/04/2024 13:22

BreakfastAtMimis · 29/04/2024 09:58

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, OK, she shouldn't have used it but it was foundation that you got for free/cheap and had left lying around and clearly weren't using. I can see why she thought it was something you wouldn't be bothered if she helped herself to.

Well someone has just outed herself as a CF! why the hell would you think anyone is entitled to take someone else's stuff???

You remind me of a god awful person we had in a flat share once, who treated the fridge as communal but all her stuff was "hers". She was asked to move out after 2 months.

FearYeTheDeadlyBisonAndItsToxicYogurt · 29/04/2024 13:24

Pistachiovillian · 29/04/2024 09:33

Thank you everyone. I am actually quite sad about it-not the foundation per-se, if I really wanted it I could get some more-It's more so yes, as is said above-the blatant leaving it lying about for me to find that she'd just thought 'I'm having that!' and taken it! And she could do that with other things?

Sorry to drip-feed but might it make a difference that it was a certain brand, that my partner sometimes gets cheap through work. So I didn't pay a lot for it-and lodger would have known that as she knows where DP works? So she'd have known it was expensive but also known I didn't pay full price for it?

DP sometimes buys things in the sales, and then sells them on (all above board)to friends and family but if they don't sell, I get given them. That's where I got it from. Does that make a difference?

If I don't give her notice I see myself being very wary of leaving anything of any value at all hanging about now.

But why wouldn't you give her notice-unless she comes up with a very good excuse and a heartfelt apology?

PercyJackson · 29/04/2024 13:24

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:13

I kind of think she thought it was spare - a used bottle left on the fridge for months? Did you tell her you were saving it for a purpose after you'd opened it? It's weird she took it though, I wouldn't want someone old used foundation !

I was under the impression it wasn't used, and that the lodger opened it..

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 29/04/2024 13:25

Haretodayswantomorrow · 29/04/2024 13:21

But this hypothetical yarn was FREE and I wasn’t using it yet so it’s TOTALLY fine for others to help themselves and I should not be aggrieved about it.

Oh it’s not a real thing that happened to you?
not a good hypothetical example, sorry.

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:26

@PercyJackson

I may have misinterpreted this:

I had some expensive foundation that I'd been saving as a gift to give to someone as I seldom wear it.

To mean that bottle rather than foundation generally

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 29/04/2024 13:26

BreakfastAtMimis · 29/04/2024 09:58

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, OK, she shouldn't have used it but it was foundation that you got for free/cheap and had left lying around and clearly weren't using. I can see why she thought it was something you wouldn't be bothered if she helped herself to.

Amazing!!! My landlady leaves her diamond rings laying around all the time, I didn’t know I could just pocket them! Oh this is so exciting!

Stupid fucking post 🙄

PercyJackson · 29/04/2024 13:27

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:26

@PercyJackson

I may have misinterpreted this:

I had some expensive foundation that I'd been saving as a gift to give to someone as I seldom wear it.

To mean that bottle rather than foundation generally

I think she meant foundation in general, as she later on says that she doesn't really wear foundation. (And it would be an odd present to give to a friend for their birthday, an open part used bottle of makeup!)

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:31

@PercyJackson yes that's why I was so 'meh'! If it's not open that's different

godmum56 · 29/04/2024 13:35

OneFrenchEgg · 29/04/2024 13:13

I kind of think she thought it was spare - a used bottle left on the fridge for months? Did you tell her you were saving it for a purpose after you'd opened it? It's weird she took it though, I wouldn't want someone old used foundation !

not an excuse. In fact I cannot think of anything that would be an excuse.

Compsearch · 29/04/2024 13:48

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 29/04/2024 13:11

That’s a rubbish excuse, had to borrow it for a job interview!

OP should be able to leave what she likes, where she likes in her own home, in the safe knowledge that someone else won’t touch it (or use it). This would apply to a visitor to the house too.

Regardless of whether lodger knows OP got this foundation at a reduced price from her DP, she should never have assumed to have opened or used it without checking with OP first. If she’d wanted to buy the foundation at cost price surely she should’ve asked OP about that or if OP’s DP could get another cheap foundation (cost price) for her too.

I’m just trying to think of a reason why the lodger might plausibly say they needed foundation and didn’t have time
to buy it themselves…maybe there is no possible reason that you would accept but if it were me and she said she had an event or something and was desperate then I might be prepared to accept that.

But in the circumstances I agree it sounds very unlikely!

Delphiniumandlupins · 29/04/2024 13:52

I would definitely say that you are upset that she took and used the foundation. Make-up feels to me like quite a personal thing to share. Whether you were using it, planned to use it or give it away doesn't matter. Is finding another lodger going to be difficult? Are you going to be happy living with her in the future?

Flopsythebunny · 29/04/2024 13:58

BreakfastAtMimis · 29/04/2024 09:58

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Yes, OK, she shouldn't have used it but it was foundation that you got for free/cheap and had left lying around and clearly weren't using. I can see why she thought it was something you wouldn't be bothered if she helped herself to.

It was theft. The lodger stole and used something that didn't belong to her

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 29/04/2024 14:08

Compsearch · 29/04/2024 13:48

I’m just trying to think of a reason why the lodger might plausibly say they needed foundation and didn’t have time
to buy it themselves…maybe there is no possible reason that you would accept but if it were me and she said she had an event or something and was desperate then I might be prepared to accept that.

But in the circumstances I agree it sounds very unlikely!

To me, the foundation was in a box which lodger crumpled up after taking the bottle/tube out and using it. Presumably it had cellophane on it too.

Anyone who’s any kind of polite person asks before they use anything.

In the past in emergencies for foundations I’ve “swiped” the free samples on makeup stands (drugstore) or asked a department store if they give samples, some do, some don’t. Also for me with the swiped stuff, it’s mostly to see if I liked that foundation for everyday and I’ll go back and buy it. In fact if the teeny tubes were on sale I’d actually buy them (at say £2-£3) as they’re very handy for travel or work makeup bags. I used to be given sample Lancôme mascaras that were just the right size for my teeny lashes.

I spoke to a Boots employee about this and she said so many testers got swiped it didn’t matter if I did it.

Anonymousemouses · 29/04/2024 14:32

I'm amazed that anyone would think of using another's foundation, even if offered. Maybe I'm just too pale, but most foundations are too orange/dark for me Also texture is important (again maybe as I'm getting older), and a lot of foundations are too heavy/cakey for me.

With the above said, there is NO reason - no special occasion/date/job interview - that could possibly require or necessitate the use of another's foundation, as even leaving out the very obvious stealing, it would be much better to go out without foundation (maybe just using concealer), rather than use something that wasn't suited to skin type and colour.

taylorswift1989 · 29/04/2024 15:06

Kick her out. Take the £50 out of her deposit if she paid one.

You can't have a thief living in your home with you. That's not safe. The fact that she was leaving the packaging strewn all over the place says nothing good about her character, either.

Kick her out and don't be sorry about it.

milveycrohn · 29/04/2024 15:06

Both my DS have or have had lodgers.
This often happens, but not always so blatant. Sometimes it has been expensive cologne, that the lodger has just used. MY DS learnt to never leave anything good anywhere except in his own room.
Otherwise, the lodger(s) may help him or herself to your food (despite having their own shelf in F/F and own cupboard, etc. A small bit of milk for a cup of tea they would not be bothered about.
In this case, the trust will have gone, so I would give notice to quit.
Be there when the lodger eventually leaves (we have known cushions to go 'missing'), and that was when the lodger had decided to leave herself, after being there a year.

seethingmess · 29/04/2024 15:16

Presumably you've checked and your bottle is gone from the kitchen? You haven't just assumed it was your one? It seems so brazen to take it and leave it on display in the bathroom. If she has stolen yours, she needs to be told to leave. You can't live with a thief. The atmosphere would be awful.